Discord Mafia - sp1-chat

Day 1 start

Day ends on 10th June at 5:20PM UTC

@Alive Line SP (edited)

no

13:20

u

beans

so hey yall

imagine

beans

forgetting day start

i actually outed this game because i need to go to korea and like finals and stuff

13:20

so

The Game (Dan) pinned a message to this channel. 06/08/2021 1:20 PM

Super and Bean W/W

uh

EASY

13:20

GAME

i may or may not be

i claim not scum

extremely inactive

13:20

ok?

13:20

ayaya

13:20

ok

btw

13:20

@The Game (Dan) #sp1-voting isnt talkable in

ok x2

Good luck and have fun everyone :)

You were saying?

I'm coming forward. I'm the Solo Coven

dies

no one DMD me the word orange ;-;

13:21

I'm heart broken

EqsyLootz

no one DMD me the word orange ;-;

?

HEYO

13:22

@The Game (Dan) FCK YOU I CAN BARELY SEE YOUR TEXT >:(

^

13:22

light gray on dark gray is

I'm also solo coven

very unfun

Multiball coven game

Left click to highlight :)

cps

Dan bad host confirmed

13:23

using the worst colour

well

Right click I mean

Ever heard of yaml?

yams

13:23

yums

ha mobile comes in handy

13:23

bc everything’s just white

Quack-Attack

I'm also solo coven

no

@Super21 QUICK CLAIM IM ROLEFISHING

Lunexia on Osu!

no

yes

I cc you quack

what

Die

why

We're both solo coven

13:24

easy

Super21

bc everything’s just white

are you claiming... LIGHT MODE?

Quack claims my slot

holy sht

me

are you claiming... LIGHT MODE?

scum

he’s light mode

no i’m claiming mobile

13:24

smh

LIGHT MODE ON MOBILE ?!?!?!?

me

i actually outed this game because i need to go to korea and like finals and stuff

OOOH you're going to korea?

WHAT

@🔨 쥐고 있는 사람 📍 ??!??!?!?!?

ARE YOU INSANE

13:24

funny

FCK YOU???

Have fun with your family and stuffs

woo game start

ohh ok

13:24

false alert

Lunexia on Osu!

OOOH you're going to korea?

yayaya

Zen

woo game start

CLAIM

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

FCK YOU???

woah

DAY 1 MASS CLAIM

confirmed non-light mode

wait

scum have absolutely no claims prepared at this moment

yes????

therefore

using ss to confirm self

everyone claim

INSTA HAMMER QUACK

is illegal!

Fastest day

bet

DARK MODE IS THE BEST MODE???

MEME HAMMER

13:25

GOGOGO

<.<

I AM MAYOR

I cc quack

QUICKLY

I AM DEAD

my vote now counts as 3

KILL ME

Get quack

13:25

he's lying

imma just go back to eating my dinner...

no

Quack isn't my slot

scum

Quack was Jester

I am my slot

they realize

Kill me if he is

Zen is Scum

13:25

Gut read.

Zen

imma just go back to eating my dinner...

aggressively grabs you

what

NO

13:25

STAY

Zen

imma just go back to eating my dinner...

Guten Hunger!

EXPERIENCE CHAOS WITH ME

why is everyone shouting

This is not overwhelming at all

13:26

idk

i love chaos, it truly is beautiful :)

DM me the word orange. Please, I'm begging you

@Zen IDK READ?!?!?

13:26

Quack outed evil

13:26

Already

13:26

Get quack

gim coming soon pog

Quack-Attack

gim coming soon pog

Stop spoiler

zen, quack, Kokichi, one non poster

shhh

Chaos time

there's your scum team

wait

EqsyLootz

zen, quack, Kokichi, one non poster

Don't forget Eqsy

ok i wasnt sure if there was 3-4 scum

EqsyLootz

there's your scum team

you're legit one of them eqsy

Lunexia on Osu!

@Zen IDK READ?!?!?

pls stop shouting is making me stress

as dan changed the list

oof

Lunexia on Osu!

you're legit one of them eqsy

But

Zen

pls stop shouting is making me stress

Okay sorry

my rolecard

13:27

says destroy mafia

13:27

or something

EqsyLootz

says destroy mafia

okay flavour claimer

13:27

Kinda cringe

evil

13:27

mine just says win with town

So eqsy is SK

kinda sus ngl

Lunexia on Osu!

So eqsy is SK

I cc sk

wetfgrz uhjfgiko

13:27

etrzhbaeitrpöjognertaupijoöhbteadjmnoäypölkhb

is this keyboard spam or german

13:27

I cant tell

Quack-Attack

is this keyboard spam or german

HOW RUDE

lmao

No meta pls

it has umlauts

Quack-Attack

I cc sk

HES LYING GET HIM

Only czech looks that terrible

so it must be words

The Game (Dan)

No meta pls

what smeta.

meanwhile

13:28

Auf Wiedersehen

The Game (Dan)

No meta pls

What's meta

bruh what

13:28

that is spelled so weird

Oh going for "what's ur card saying for wincon"

13:28

yeah

13:29

@EqsyLootz bad

oh

13:29

I didnt even look at it

Lunexia on Osu!

@EqsyLootz bad

@Lunexia on Osu! bad

tbh

Ba

13:29

d

13:29

eu

b

13:29

ad

https://osu.ppy.sh/users/1473890

badeu · player info | osu!

osu! » player info » badeu

no

Quack DMD me their rolecard colour

Sus

modkill

ah ofc ofc

13:30

modkill me ;)

Imagine leaking DMs

I dare you

?ban quack

I am not high enough in the role hierarchy to do that.

?ban quack

kekw

You cannot do this action on this user due to role hierarchy.

sad

Anyway quack is confirmed and outed evil

13:31

Sucks to be quack but

yes

Lunexia on Osu!

Imagine leaking DMs

What can you do

EqsyLootz

Click to see attachment 🖼️

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY

13:31

What

Eqsy stop posting maf chat

13:32

smh my head

13:32

we just need entire mafia on quack now for EZ Clap hammer

13:32

13:33

Why didi think this was a good idea

Lunexia on Osu!

we just need entire mafia on quack now for EZ Clap hammer

but- are you implying that entire mafia isn't already on quack

13:33

:o

me

but- are you implying that entire mafia isn't already on quack

13:34

Do you know more than i?

13:34

all 4 mafia are on me

lunex quack scumpair gg

including me

o.o

I have a theory, when I pressured Zen into claiming

13:34

they immediately claimed they ahd to go

13:34

and were busy

13:34

it seems odd

that sounds

13:34

like angleshooting

typically this early scum dont have fake claims

so yes go ahead

so they are worried about claiming

13:35

wait

Nah im kidding :p

i have a theory

13:35

when eqsy sent a message, they sent it 3 seconds later than their typing speed would indicate

SHOOT

which means eqsy is thinking about typing

13:35

which means that they're thinking extra hard

I have a theory

WHICH MEANS YOU'RE SCUM

13:35

awawawawa

Ironfire had a 1.58 minute break from posting

13:35

which indicates they went in their mafia chat

13:35

so

13:35

they are scum

13:36

everyone must post at every single second of the game to prove they arent mafia.

okay i'm back from eating now

hi scum Im sheriff and found you suspicious

13:36

what is your defense?

check me again?

13:36

idk maybe i was framed

EqsyLootz

I have a theory, when I pressured Zen into claiming

You asked for a claim?

13:36

Wait

13:37

You never did

13:37

Why would u say that

want me to claim or?

13:37

confused

No i'm asking why eqsy said he pressured you to claim

13:37

When he never did

Claim or I will reveal as mayor

EqsyLootz

which indicates they went in their mafia chat

trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

13:38

or i went to take notes

13:38

EqsyLootz

Claim or I will reveal as mayor

? ? ? ? ?

ironfire that was another 1.48 minute pause

EqsyLootz

Claim or I will reveal as mayor

you just revealed?

from messaging

wut

13:38

i am so confused

EqsyLootz

everyone must post at every single second of the game to prove they arent mafia.

? ? ?? ? ?

wait

@Zen You're outed scum

eqsy just used a decimal

im Mayor Cop

Is what he is getting down to

which means

<.<

Im town

that using nonsense logic and low iq deduction

because mafia never use decimals

they're jester

13:38

shoot them

13:38

rn

Lol

idk ;-;

13:38

is there framer in this mode

yes

well then there's the answer

13:39

can

13:39

'

13:39

t

13:39

can't you just check again

13:39

tonight

13:40

cuz ngl i didn't know we could do stuff yet (edited)

im already outed arsonist

13:40

just vote me

um

13:40

okay?

13:40

wat

Zen

cuz ngl i didn't know we could do stuff yet (edited)

*Ahem*
Don't edit

MODKILL

yeah dont edit. (edited)

i just edited cuz i'm dumb and can't write sorry

MOD ABUSE

13:41

KILL EQSY

Zen

i just edited cuz i'm dumb and can't write sorry

Ye it's fine just dont do it again

Zen

is there framer in this mode

Read the info channel

me

that using nonsense logic and low iq deduction

Sounds like.... no i'm not gonna say it.

Message Edited by EqsyLootz#2051.

Before: yeah dont edit..
After: yeah dont edit.

oki

@EqsyLootz please avoid editing

?warn @EqsyLootz editing messages

You're not high enough in the role hierarchy to do that.

Lunexia on Osu!

Sounds like.... no i'm not gonna say it.

ty

sad

Carl-bot

You're not high enough in the role hierarchy to do that.

didn't know you changed your name quack, whyd you do it?

:>

me

ty

SOUNDS LIKE IRONFIRE

13:43

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

13:43

gottem.

13:43

Yeah i'm so funny

13:43

Hey are you going to visit family in korea?

yes

Seoul?

ooo

close

i always wanted to go to korea

13:44

or japan tbh

I always want to escape

Who doesn't

both seem like cool places

Quack-Attack

I always want to escape

D:

Lunexia on Osu!

Who doesn't

introverts?

13:44

idk

lol

13:44

or people afraid of travel

I SAW LUNE VENT VOTE THEM OUT

Zen

introverts?

I want to escape from society

you shout a lot eqsy

13:45

woah

13:46

hmmm

13:46

like live in a cabin?

I'm a master ranked ToS player

in the woods

obviously I shout a lot

EqsyLootz

I SAW LUNE VENT VOTE THEM OUT

You saw me vent? That's literally because i'm THE ENGINEER

because town of idiots.

EqsyLootz

I'm a master ranked ToS player

tells me nothing

smh my head

lol

Lunexia on Osu!

D:

America bad

EqsyLootz

because town of idiots.

You're the biggest fool of them all

yes

So fitting that you lead us UWU

nah

13:46

im a carry

:kekw:

give me jailor or Mayor

13:47

and scum doesnt stand a chance

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) come here i wanna talk

EqsyLootz

I'm a master ranked ToS player

Wait youRe actually?

13:47

That's insane

yes

D:

I got 2100 elo

is that like the best rank or something?

yes

Insane cause master elo must be pretty ez

icic

Okay enough smug

LMAO

I think im like top 300 Best ToS players :)

the shade

not rly

EqsyLootz

I think im like top 300 Best ToS players :)

suprised that game has 300 players left ngl

13:48

nvm

13:48

400

13:48

zen it still has like 3k active

13:48

i think

13:48

idk

it

13:48

what

i haven't played ToS in over a month

now

i played tos mostly before ranks and that were introduced

13:48

idk when that was

13:48

but i played it with my sister

@ForeverBel hear that? Im a master ranked ToS player

Zen

the shade

What was shade

Zen

suprised that game has 300 players left ngl

same

Lunexia on Osu!

What was shade

you saying that the rank must be easy to get then if eqsy has it

13:49

also i have a question

13:49

so like

alr lol

i see people have roles like "ep 2 winner"

13:50

how do you get that

13:50

cuz i won that last game but didn't get anything like that

13:50

so am confused

episode games

13:51

they happen like once every 3 months or so

Yeah

how do you qualify for them?

join when they happen lmao

oh so

13:51

no qualifications needed?

nope

so it's just a regular game then

13:52

but with a special title

pretty much

13:52

usually a more balanced list

13:52

and more people tend to join

damn i was expecting something like more

13:52

grandios

Zen

so it's just a regular game then

But more tryhard

13:52

At least its supposed to be

put some qualifications on it smh

13:53

then it's more try hard

you can only join if you've played 100 games

We don't have that many people you know

there

xD

Quack-Attack

you can only join if you've played 100 games

ez

Zen

no qualifications needed?

besides haing experience

Zen

but with a special title

fun

13:54

didn't we have like

13:54

2 afk new players

we're working on rewards for winning episodes

in ep 3

13:54

or smth

but we have no clue

me

in ep 3

xd

just host a special tourney with prizes for winner

13:54

like 5 man games

13:54

or something

13:54

and use points

ttag

instead of just a regular game with fancy name

think twice tourney

13:55

:kekw:

think THRICE

Zen

just host a special tourney with prizes for winner

Phoen and I tried to host a tourney befoe

13:55

but not enough people signed up

You never started

13:55

i thinl

13:55

Well it was when i only just joined

try it again and invite some people outside of the server to join

13:55

idk

But the tourney was gonna be cool

13:56

basically there was a 21 player game 1st round

gim tourney

4 will be eliminated

13:56

then 17

21p game xd

then 4 will be eliminated

Gim episode

then 13 then 4 will be eliminated

13:56

then 9

Quack-Attack

Gim episode

then 4 will be eliminated

Lunexia on Osu!

and we decide winner there

Quack-Attack

what

Lunexia on Osu!

21p game xd

we hosted a 30 player GIM game before

but

i mean eqsy mikan managed to do it solo

what you on about

how bout the 1 player game

13:56

that's like

outside of the server

the most important part

13:56

EqsyLootz

we hosted a 30 player GIM game before

I think it was 28

No

13:56

it was 30

13:56

+

so you could probs pull it off here

EqsyLootz

we hosted a 30 player GIM game before

That was before the server went downhill (and before we started building it back up :D)

yes

oop

13:57

what happened?

Zen

what happened?

Eqsy left for about 5 months and the only person that wanted to make things work then also left, and then a lot of other people left including most of the past staff.

13:58

Some came back now

13:58

Not all of them though

EqsyLootz

it was 30

it was 29 (I just looked at my spreadsheet)

Lunexia on Osu!

Eqsy left for about 5 months and the only person that wanted to make things work then also left, and then a lot of other people left including most of the past staff.

aww that's sad

Quack-Attack

it was 29 (I just looked at my spreadsheet)

yeah sounds right

Quack-Attack

it was 29 (I just looked at my spreadsheet)

There were aditional backuos

total playercount was 29 though

Lunexia on Osu!

Eqsy left for about 5 months and the only person that wanted to make things work then also left, and then a lot of other people left including most of the past staff.

basically in other words, im literally the person holding hte server on my back

14:00

should my back break so would the server :p

Quack-Attack

total playercount was 29 though

ill count it as 30

lune was the one that brought it back .-.

Well I joined

14:00

and thene asked lune if they wanted to ressurect

14:00

so it was a team effort ;)

14:00

jkjk

14:00

it was all Lune

lune op

who was the other person?

EqsyLootz

basically in other words, im literally the person holding hte server on my back

I am doubtful on you doing it alone.

Pyro was afk

14:01

forever

is pyro still staff?

Pyro still IS afk

I forgot if I demoted them or not

@Pyro, Dragon of Eyes are you staff?

14:01

@Moderator

yesh

Did that ping you?

ah yeah

14:01

I remember

Zen

who was the other person?

Nashed

I made the joke of demoting them

14:01

just couldnt remember if I did

why is lunex red now

14:02

oh wait admin color was oncolored or smth?

Why are YOU red now?

wait-

14:02

ok

14:02

who did that

14:02

bannable

lune has rainbow name

/wdr eqsy

14:02

jk idk who did it

14:02

someone wanna give me mod :)

14:04

oh wait

14:04

quack or

14:05

lunex

14:05

cuz i saw like 20000 role updates

14:05

you're gim overlord now

14:05

welcome

and i didn't get to see which one i was

me

cuz i saw like 20000 role updates

xD#

sus!

Ironfire

And now you're not

did you not realize

sad

you had mod

14:05

for like 30 seconds

no

?

i looked

14:05

at audit log

14:05

and iw as looking

14:05

for which one was me

14:05

but like

14:05

i couldn't find

14:05

cuz im blind and slo

ooop

I muted him but he can still talk

14:05

skill

14:05

diff

14:06

:dab

14:06

also probs cuz alive line special says "you can talk here"

sad

so uhm

14:06

responsible admin i would like to report lunex, eqsy, and quack for mod abuse

14:06

u.u

14:06

now what responsible admins are on this server

me

14:07

Lune

14:07

Quack

14:07

consult one of those 3

oh ok

14:07

ty ty

Quack-Attack

I muted him but he can still talk

Rude

14:07

Quack outed ToS Bmer

me

responsible admin i would like to report lunex, eqsy, and quack for mod abuse

What did I do

14:08

Sadge

actually idk

14:08

it was one of you 3

14:08

so therefore i blame all 3

14:08

:Dab:

Okay fair

14:08

:D

brilliant

Okay i think ironfire is a town read this game

agreed

Ironfire wouldn't chat as evil

Lunex, Ironfire are both town

14:09

I guarantee it

Me too

Lunexia on Osu!

Ironfire wouldn't chat as evil

metareads are sus

I scumread quack btw

lunex wouldn't say that if they weren't evil

quack is scum

that is why you scumread quack

me

lunex wouldn't say that if they weren't evil

My brain just got

14:10

Obliterated

14:10

I don't know what you are saying

14:10

WIth that

aya triple negative

I can't think that many

me

lunex wouldn't say that if they weren't evil

lunex would say that if they were evil

14:10

there

14:10

get rid of both negatives

14:10

easy

:o

14:11

or "lunex wouldn't say that if they were town (not evil)"

What would i not say?

Lunexia on Osu!

Okay i think ironfire is a town read this game

^

Chat died

14:15

i can't have that happen

14:15

@Alive Line SP meme ping

twelve

Get in here!

ping meme?

i want everyone to ISO ironfire

595 new messages

And confirm that he is town

in live challenge rn

14:16

pls

ironfire seems town

14:16

oky ba

14:16

i

Thank you bean

Lunexia on Osu!

@Alive Line SP meme ping

NO

Fastest iso in the wild west

14:17

ironfire hasn't talked

14:17

sus

wait

14:17

bean is in this game?

14:17

also uh

14:17

sus

14:17

what's after that

14:17

then

14:17

hmmm

I GOT ME ME PINGWD

HI

GIVE ME A MEME

TOMATO

YES

14:18

I AM SATISFIED

TURTWIG ARE YOU THE GOSH DARN SCUM?

14:18

YOU TURTLE

NO BUT I SHOW UP AS SCUM

Miller claim

@Mike, best mini golfer

wh.

14:19

we need Duncan rn

14:19

they have a bunch of memes

AND I CAN AVOID 1 MAF ATTACK

for meme phase

14:19

meme

Okay so the turtwig is the politician

14:19

Guess we have a slow government

14:19

Get it

14:19

Cause

14:19

turtwig

14:19

is

o.o

a

14:19

T

u

14:19

r

https://tenor.com/view/peppa-pig-minecraft-meme-peppa-pig-minecraft-meme-gif-14960039

t

Duncan isn't in this game lol

wig

The Game (Dan)

Duncan isn't in this game lol

SUMMON THEM JUST FOR MEMEPHASE

Quack-Attack

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Lunexia on Osu!

wig

@Lunexia on Osu! YOU ALMOST GOT YOURSELF KILLED BC THERE

14:22

Anyway

We're on the same side

14:22

So i don't want to anger the turtwig

I gotta practice for a race i have in about 38 minutes. Later

Good luck!"

14:22

hals und beinbruch owo

I will not be ok... its gonna be singapore and USA

sanguis per deum sanguinem

Lunexia on Osu!

So i don't want to anger the turtwig

I mean even if you angerd me, i cant really do anything

Mike, best mini golfer

I mean even if you angerd me, i cant really do anything

well you're confirmed town so town and mafia would sheep you

How tf am i conf

14:27

Besides my claim there is no proof i acc am politician

Mike, best mini golfer

How tf am i conf

You claim politician

14:28

It can only roll once

14:28

And is confirmed

14:28

In the list

Mike, best mini golfer

Besides my claim there is no proof i acc am politician

The real politician would CC you

14:29

if that happens we hang you

14:29

(:

And when i turn out to be really politician we found a scum

Exactly

back for like 4 mins

One for one trades are good for us

A townie for a maf day 1 is great ofds

then i have to go back to live challenge

14:30

hi turtle

ZEN NO

?

I watched highlights from baku

;-;

14:31

i was big sad

Stroll hit the wall hard

yeaaa

14:31

was scary

14:31

imagine tho

Max lucky he missed the wall a bit

knowing ur tyres might just pop at any second

Happy for seb tho

would be terrified

14:32

seb did amazing

14:32

pierre too

Zen

knowing ur tyres might just pop at any second

I mean ik that feeling. In the game thar is

14:32

Going long, tyres on 83%

14:33

For refference: 75% is when tyres have a chance to puncture, you mostly pit btwn 50 and 60%

rip

I had a vietnam race once where in total there wete 6 punctures, 2 coming from me

14:33

1 in lap 5 bc i hit someone

14:34

And 1 at the end bc i went on hards lap 5 and didnt pit again

14:34

Still got P12

I'm so confused

Its F1 stuff

14:37

Leader of the championship got a tyre puncture with 2 laps to go, session was stopped, and on the restart number 2 in the championship locked up his brakes and finished last

Mike, best mini golfer

Its F1 stuff

Yeah i imagined so, but i'm completely cluesless haha

Mike, best mini golfer

Leader of the championship got a tyre puncture with 2 laps to go, session was stopped, and on the restart number 2 in the championship locked up his brakes and finished last

Oh lol

14:39

OOP

He got out of the car and immediatly kicked the tyre

Poor tyre

15:01

(spelled tire btw, pretty sure)

I'm here. Just got home.

Welcome to the chat bea

done with challenge now

Little tip, if you are town don't claim

15:02

If you are mafia

15:02

Claim right now

still not gonna be too active rn

Pro move

Zen

done with challenge now

What did you even do actually?

15:03

@ScarletShroud you're in this too right? Could you meta read ironfire for me real quick if you are free?

well sorta hard to explain

15:03

but

15:04

it was a comp to make the longest word the quickest with a few letters you needed to use

15:04

and then you get points from that

? ?

that you place down on a board

Scrabble?

15:04

xD

and the more points that touch each other give more points

15:04

no

15:04

is hard to explain

15:04

oof

That's sounds like scrabble LMAO

15:05

it does

Who to vote who to vote

Fun fact
Some not-French-dude won a French scrabble tournament without knowing a single word in french

how

The Game (Dan)

Fun fact
Some not-French-dude won a French scrabble tournament without knowing a single word in french

how

wtf is that trying to spell

Super21

wtf is that trying to spell

I have no idea

15:07

@Super21 are you town?

also is “MN” really a valid word

15:07

ya

Okay, now, imagine if you were NOT town but MAFIA, who would your teammates be? Name three players.

me

15:08

me

15:08

and me

hey why was i pinged twice

ile x3

Ile isn't in this game

15:08

I'm actually serious

exactly

15:08

oh

Name three people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Richards_(Scrabble_player)#:~:text=In%202015%2C%20despite%20not%20speaking,multiple%20duplicate%20titles%20from%202016.

um

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

hey why was i pinged twice

memes

15:08

I think

kokichi, kokichi, and most importantly, kokichi

Kokichi is maf

how do i decide this tho

h

15:09

lol

Super21

how do i decide this tho

If you're town it doesn't matter

so just

just name three people

pick random people?

15:09

lol

Lunexia on Osu!

Kokichi is maf

i WISH

:)

;-;

15:10

anyway, i also choose elon muskrat, fuckoffreactiontestsdontworkstopusingthemonmeicanseethroughthem, and fuckboi

mike nashed and bea

Okay :)

what is the point of this

Note for search https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/851901033557917757

oh

Super21

what is the point of this

If you're maf you helped me

15:11

#

15:11

how would that work

15:11

is it like a subconscious thing

(:

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

hey why was i pinged twice

i wanna talk to you

poor zen getting completely shot by kokichi D:

15:15

f

my maf partners would be me, myself, and I

Nice

Deleted User

I'm here. Just got home.

maf

Quack-Attack

my maf partners would be me, myself, and I

ur maf

16:30

not me

How would I be mafia by saying I just got here.

Cause ur mafia

me

maf

Yeah i somewhat agree

16:37

But they're new

16:37

So it doesn't have to say much

me

ur maf

Hmm quack doesn't seem super sus to me so far

16:51

Also TP on me pls i'm basically Tpow

16:52

#totallynotauselesscit baiting maf

Deleted User

How would I be mafia by saying I just got here.

Two things. 1. You said you're in the thread but then vanished without sayng anything. Usually if people join in they read up on recent events and add their bits. But dw you're new i don't expect that. 2. The reaction "how would i be mafia by [...]" is something that leans towards a mafia saying it. But it's not necessarily a mafia sentence so yeah

What would you have me say?

regardless of that is saying "hi i'm here now" and then not saying anything else kind of weird since you announced to be around but not doing anything, which makes it look like you're just saying something to say something, but not to contribute.

I don't have any info.

Yeah dw

I announced I was here because I didn't want to be afk.

Sounds good

16:56

Are you town, then?

Yes, I'm town.

Alright. Another question, and this is just a "what if". no worries. If you were mafia, who would your buddies be? If you're town feel free to name three random people. Or the people you suspect the most etc.

That's really annoying that me saying hello is being scrutinized this hard. I don't know anyone here.

Deleted User

That's really annoying that me saying hello is being scrutinized this hard. I don't know anyone here.

hahahaha yeah dw dw I think ironfire was just joking around and i was seeing how you'd react

16:58

As if anyone could say you're maf from just saying hello

16:58

Anyway wanna answer my question? :D

Once again. I don't know anyone here. I wouldn't have any buddies I joined a few days ago and haven't spoken to anyone.

Oh, by buddies i mean the mafia team

16:59

As a what if If you were mafia, who would your partners be?

16:59

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841661746686328842/851417087054053397

16:59

Here's a list of all players

17:00

If you don't know who to name just say random names

17:00

From there

17:00

It still helps

I don't know and naming three random people is dangerous if I don't even know info about them.

No it's not don't worry

17:00

If anyone pushes you for this i defend you myself

17:01

17:01

And if it's just three random people then it's whatever

17:01

But it still helps me

17:01

17:01

There's nothing to be reluctant about :)

It helps you but doesn't help me.

Yeah

17:02

It won't hurt you either though

17:02

As fellow town members we have to work together

17:02

So helping me is helping yourself

17:03

Right?

I don't want to incriminate three random people.

You're not

17:03

Dw this isn't for pushing them

17:03

Or accusing them

17:03

I am just interested who you'd choose

17:04

without info

I don't see how picking at random gives you any info.

Oh, a mafia would probably pick selected people and not random, if you ever end up flipping evil we can see who you picked

17:05

And maybe get some leads from that

17:05

:)

That sounds fishy.

So you refuse?

I feel like this is a trick. I'll do it but still sounds fishy.

No trick

17:06

I just told you the trick

17:06

lol

Lune Shroud Turtwig

So we're now mafia buddies?

17:07

Nice

17:07

Good to have you on the team

17:07

Let's win these

Oh, you're Lune.

Note for later: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/851930350644101121

I literally just picked the top three on the list.

Deleted User

Oh, you're Lune.

So you're taking notes on me.

Deleted User

I literally just picked the top three on the list.

Hmm i would've prefered if you had chosen actual random people

17:08

And not by a system

17:08

17:08

aww

17:08

Anyway it's alright

Late hello, the fuck did i miss

Reb

Late hello, the fuck did i miss

Everything

17:09

Quack is outed evil

17:09

xD

Damn.

I don't know anyone. How would I pick at random. Even then I'd be incriminating potentially good players.

Deleted User

I don't know anyone. How would I pick at random. Even then I'd be incriminating potentially good players.

Calling someone sus has no relevancy if you don't give reasons for why you do so

17:10

So you'd be fine either way

Exactly, so I don't get why you've pushed me to do so or how it's beneficial. So I saw no point in doing this.

Deleted User

Exactly, so I don't get why you've pushed me to do so or how it's beneficial. So I saw no point in doing this.

I told you the point

17:11

:|

casually eating popcorn in the background

it's fine, this whole thing is possibly just because i'm a bit bored

And interactions are always good

17:11

See, if they later need to know if we are mafia together

17:11

And read back through covnersations involving us

17:11

They might see that I'm not mafia from this

17:11

:D

That makes zero sense to me.

Neither does it to me

17:12

Reb

popcorn buddies

17:12

woo!

@Reb can you vote quack?

17:12

or algebra?

I need a refresher

17:12

Why those two in specific

17:12

I know I dont like math but im not gonna murder algebruh

Algebra cause they're asleep and when they wake up to see many vote him is funny

ba dum tss

Quack because i feel like it

Lunexia on Osu!

Algebra cause they're asleep and when they wake up to see many vote him is funny

Y'all did the same thing to me and it made me shit myself so Deduction

Quack CCd me

Reb

Y'all did the same thing to me and it made me shit myself so Deduction

xDDDDDDD

17:13

I'M SO SORRY

17:13

LOOK

17:13

I swear it wasn't my idea

17:14

~~you have no evidence~~

~~my eyes are evidence~~

17:14

~~rekt~~

uh oh

Lunexia on Osu!

Quack CCd me

What was the claim anyways

Solo Coven

17:14

Why you asking?

wait

17:15

theres no coven in this list tho?

Well

what

What if we pretend there is

17:15

And what if we pretend coven is town sided

17:15

then quack CCd my town slot

17:15

17:16

god i love memephase

17:16

Tomorrow we'll get down to business

Why would quacc cc something so stupid in the first place

17:16

what

Reb

Why would quacc cc something so stupid in the first place

because @Quack-Attack is an epic memer

Im a cool kid!

Yes

17:16

Yes you are

but

17:16

huh???

17:16

Not only is that claim stupid, cc'ing it is

17:16

Well

17:16

Stupider

17:17

I dont see why this was a thing in the first place

Reb

I dont see why this was a thing in the first place

xD

17:17

Read the first 500 messages

17:17

It's comedy gold

Im actually exe on myself sorry guys

17:18

17:19

@Quack-Attack When do we do gim stuff

I need to do homework but im procrastinating

17:19

Feel free to spam messages in gim plan

Quack-Attack

Im actually exe on myself sorry guys

This is why I gave up on these games lmao

Just do it like a ~~normal~~ human being and just don't do homework

Its memephase dw about it

Trying to read anything makes no sense whatsoever

Reb

Trying to read anything makes no sense whatsoever

It's memephase

First day there’s really nothing to di

17:20

So we just mess around

Just laugh abouzt the obviously stupid posts and joke respond or something

17:20

And discuss the actual posts

^

Isnt it day phase tho

17:20

what

Quack-Attack

So we just mess around

But even messing around gives some info

17:21

For example who's in chat with whom and how the people interact

Ooh it dows

17:21

Does

17:21

Fancy

17:21

I always spam claim like everything in existence

17:21

So it isnt memephase, its just "overly complicated chat reading phase"

Nah its called memephase because nobody takes it seriously

17:22

Just take it easy and dont worry about it

Lunexia on Osu!

But even messing around gives some info

what

Lunexia on Osu!

For example who's in chat with whom and how the people interact

what

But if you take it too easy we’ll stab you MafiaCat

17:22

Lune is a tryhard

Yeah im just gonna go to sleep

17:22

Trying to read y'all makes my brain bleed

I never knew that memephase could have info tbh

Reb

So it isnt memephase, its just "overly complicated chat reading phase"

yes

Quack-Attack

Nah its called memephase because nobody takes it seriously

I still try to get some gut reads

17:23

You know nothing serious, just picking up peoples vibes

You’re the only one :)

Good night

Gn!

And dont drop a nuke tonight please

Quack-Attack

Lune is a tryhard

No i'm not a tryhard WDYM YOURE A TRYHARD

Dont let the eqsys bite

Lies

Quack-Attack

Dont let the eqsys bite

Duncan would like to know your location

FAST VOTE ZACH THEY'RE ASLEEP

17:24

oh

17:24

wiat

17:24

shit

17:24

Ahafbnwesrdigjk

WHAT

17:24

LUNE NO

Reb

WHAT

Helllooo

@Quack-Attack want to vote algebra to be funny?

NO FAST VOTING ZACH

WHAT

Since algebra is asleep?

17:25

no dont bully the newbie

Ok, good morning everyone, I will go do real things now

EqsyLootz

WHAT

WHATS YOUR OPINION ON UNICYCLES?

goodbye

Reb

goodbye

Quack-Attack

WHATS YOUR OPINION ON UNICYCLES?

THEY HAVE 3 WHEELS

Quack-Attack

WHATS YOUR OPINION ON UNICYCLES?

LOL

Wait

EqsyLootz

THEY HAVE 3 WHEELS

ARE U SURE

They have 1 wheel

17:25

THEY HAVE 1 WHEEL

17:26

Anyways I’m going to get my covid vaccine right nowwe

17:26

Hm

17:26

Dk what to think of that

EqsyLootz

Anyways I’m going to get my covid vaccine right nowwe

Good luck don't eat the needle

Dang i was really looking Forward to that :l ur no fun

I want a vaccine :(

The Game (Dan)

I want a vaccine :(

Go steal eqsys

The Game (Dan)

I want a vaccine :(

drugs

For all ik the vaccine could kill my by tmr

18:20

I got it 4 minutes ago

EqsyLootz

For all ik the vaccine could kill my by tmr

ok bye

18:21

Was nice

18:21

What

Can u give me your master elo acc before you go?

No

18:21

Sad

:)

Then don't you dare die

18:21

!!!!

I can buy you town of salem though

I have the game

Whenecer i get my old laptop back

18:21

O

18:21

Since when

EqsyLootz

Since when

uhhh idk

Feb 23 lol

18:23

Around then

18:23

I guess

O

WE SHOULD KILL EACHOTHER IN TOS

Yes

19:47

If we get 15 people from here to play tos that’d be fun

Who of you fcks have coven

Me

19:48

Im solo coven

Yeah mate

19:48

Always in CAA

Caa is pain but yes

You are either werewolf, pirate or solo coven

19:49

Unpopulair opinion: pirate is best coven role

vote him out

Sooo which army do you bring

19:57

Besides i said it in meme phase so you xant do anything against me

GA is the best role

Ga is great

ga is fun

yeah ok but you are limited to 1 person

Mike, best mini golfer

yeah ok but you are limited to 1 person

I just lynch my target after protecting them once

20:58

And then im confirmed survivor

20:59

Surv is my fav role

20:59

and ga is confirmed surv

20:59

its big brain

i love pirate bc you can act as surv, and screw ppl over

yeah

20:59

pirate is fun

at the same time

i also like potion master

i am more of a poisoner guy

21:00

or HM

poisoner is a bad mafioso C:

yeah but still

21:00

its nice

21:00

keeping TP busy

true

21:00

btw

it fully covers the CL

The mafia has two roles

hypno

that can temporarily disable your night immunity

since when

And could kill you that night

oh wait you men in here

Dan made it that the unconcious effect isnt is blackmail+rb

21:01

but an RB + immunity removal

21:01

isnt is

21:01

ok i need seep

21:01

sleep

dan is a asshole

mmmh

21:02

So TP should go on mike

Mike, best mini golfer

dan is a asshole

@The Game (Dan) fight meh

Mike's the politician

Lunexia on Osu!

So TP should go on mike

dude i am save 1 round

21:02

i can survive trhis

they could try and go for you

so?

but we could have a lookout or tp on u

21:02

ull be fine

i prefer lookout

they'll go for silent people

bc tp can save other ppl

yeah LO would out both of them

yup

the SK will go for active speakers

21:03

i imagine

i think

but youre safe from the SK

how so

but basically mafia can RB, take immunity and attack someone

i survive one attack from maf

it's pretty bs

wait acc lemme read the rc again

as long as the thug is alive maf can kill people through immunity D:

Mike, best mini golfer

i survive one attack from maf

scrap this, i survive the first time i am attacked

21:04

so i have no need for tp

i think that's passive immunity

yup

but make sure to ask dan

21:05

i think the thug can disable that

Lunexia on Osu!

I just lynch my target after protecting them once

lol that’s called gamethrowing

Howdy I am going to catch up but I am likely not going to respond to everything, it took ages to scroll up to begin with

EqsyLootz

DAY 1 MASS CLAIM

I actually hate this slot already, as in think they're acting scummy even if it's RVS

Lunexia on Osu!

Quack outed evil

Did I miss something? Lmao

EqsyLootz

ok i wasnt sure if there was 3-4 scum

Not sure if I like this post, can't put my finger on why though.

EqsyLootz

typically this early scum dont have fake claims

As a counter, why would Town claim this early when it's obviously not a legitimate mass-claim.

EqsyLootz

basically in other words, im literally the person holding hte server on my back

Are you saying I am not? Bruh, I kept this shit together for a while aha

Zen

who was the other person?

Me

Mike, best mini golfer

NO BUT I SHOW UP AS SCUM

Serious claim?

Lunexia on Osu!

well you're confirmed town so town and mafia would sheep you

Unless a cc happens

Lunexia on Osu!

Claim right now

Oh shit... well I gotta claim then I guess... :c

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Explaining how this wprls removes it's whole shebang

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I'm down

Eqsy is where I'm headed at

oh lol

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

no

00:22

reading is too high effort btw

00:22

so

00:22

eqsy/bea/quack/lune maf ty

yes

00:30

but its multiball

00:30

me and lune are the only maf on one team

Quack-Attack

but its multiball

Oh I thought it was just mafia vs SK

00:43

Not maf vs maf vs town

no theres 7 mafia factions

00:43

each has 2 mafia

00:43

pay attention to the setup jeez

Lmfaoo

If Eqsy flips mafia I have doubts that Quack does as well.

03:48

Same with Ironfire

03:49

If Quack/Iron are mafia I doubt Eqsy is in extension.

03:49

Just based on their wagon

me

eqsy/bea/quack/lune maf ty

i'm blatant obv maf

:o now let's see if i die

you just called half the lobby maf i don't think it'll do anything

04:06

If you call everyone mafia, you

04:07

you're correctly calling out all the mafia

04:07

omg

04:07

i never even though about that

04:08

this is sad

Oh rip

04:09

Click it to see if they go there anyway?

nope dont go anywhere

04:10

Eqsy Quack Eqsy Eqsy Eqsy Person that asked who Nashed was Mike

04:10

don't ask me the content

ok

04:11

nashedgut strikes again

Eqsy has been acting too much into RVS for my liking, it's as if they want to be top-town but doesn't yet have the content to do so.

RVS being?

Random vote stage, the initial joke portion of each day

oo

RVS is what they named it on MafiaScum anyway

04:12

or RQS, random questioning stage

the bean vote was random, the quack vote was memevote

127 posts and still no real content?

Literally not even giving a single hint towards any real leads, pure joke wagons from what I've read.

04:14

Maybe I am looking too far into it for this server

04:14

Entire D1 on the other game was almost RVS

I should deletify my habbit of loooking for the person first and then the channel when isoing

04:15

if i look for myself

04:15

my discord freezes for 10 seconds

04:15

cause of the metric ton of messages it loads

Oh jesus

Nashed when bot and when MA 5?

04:15

Bot is when I can be bothered

fair

new season of fortnite dropped

04:16

I meant ->

ahh i see

04:16

guess it's grinding time ey?

uh

04:20

Indeed it is

why is eqsy getting voted

nashed didn't read me! he's scum with me

04:21

very obv

04:21

/vote nashed

Because they're scummy to me

me

nashed didn't read me! he's scum with me

shh

sussy

Whatd i come back to

04:21

(Even though i should probably be looking through chat log but i cba)

has anyone claimed anything?

Just read for yourself dude

small problem

04:22

I suck at reading people lmao

Or you'll be getting a non-confirmed person to you to give you a perspective to think with

hey zach what does cba mean

04:22

:o

cant be assed

Algebra

has anyone claimed anything?

I believe Mike (that Turtwig dude) claimed Polititian. Nobody else should claim unless you are too

oki lol

hmm

Btw why is eqsy getting voted

Reb

I suck at reading people lmao

wel either a) you can read through and kinda get a gut feeling for a bunhc of people, or b) you could be lazy ~~like me~~ and just blitz read everyone off of whims

04:23

uh

Reb

Btw why is eqsy getting voted

Again, just read the game.

Mel

Because they're scummy to me

that

Mel

Again, just read the game.

Man.

lol

04:24

if you want, you can just uh

just uh

go to search bar, do "from: eqsy"

Read the game

then kinda read through

04:24

ayaya

Damn you sniped me

o.o

Alr then

~~orrrrrrr hop on the wagon and low effort by just votin eqsy~~

Its all just quick bursts of messages

04:26

most of them on wheels or vaccines or some shit

me

~~orrrrrrr hop on the wagon and low effort by just votin eqsy~~

ew no sheeping bad

im not a sheep, im zach

04:26

so its ok

:o

04:26

beep beep

The penta vote in a row

04:29

Woa

get eqsy out so he doesn't have to play on mobile anymore

04:35

#justiceforeqsy

insane.

I play on mobile tho

Reb

I play on mobile tho

Some people are masochists

04:39

Some people are not

i play on mobile and laptop

Lunexia on Osu!

Some people are masochists

Im not a masochist tho

Some people use discord light theme

I just dont have other options

Some people are normal human beings

Reb

I just dont have other options

fair

I use very dark mode btw

yes

04:40

as you should

Yay

04:40

04:41

want some tea?

Sure

cool

05:21

well idk why turtwig voted eqsy but

05:22

if eqsy is maf nashed should be mostly cleared

05:22

also algebra town jus sayin

05:22

or nk

Ironfire town

also

#pocket

did mike claim smth

05:25

or am i dumb

im actually town siding nk

Mike claims poli

mhmmm

Algebra

im actually town siding nk

burn

Algebra

im actually town siding nk

ok cool

yeah i kill wolves for town

05:25

i win with town

i

05:25

hope

05:25

youre joking

05:25

dont claim

05:25

xd

no i would never lie

na they're joking cuz

05:25

i cc nk

no way

let the citizen (like me) body for you

see i have the nkife

im the real nk

citizen power

voting you out rn

oh yea

05:26

watch this

05:26

I AM THE SERIAL KILLER MAYOR

ez

05:26

3-1

05:26

diffed

adc diffi

cult

Solo Bolo'd

i should like

05:27

permanently switch roles from adc to like

05:27

top or supp or smth

ok fine

05:27

lets make a deal

oh?

we both stab each other

05:27

for confirmation

hm

if you dont agree

what if you're a sneaky maf and shoot me instead

then you clearly are the fake nk

hm

me

what if you're a sneaky maf and shoot me instead

no i would never do that

what if you're the politican and carries a knife around cuz that's what politicans do

also how do you spell politicain

Mike claims politician

polytishun

you yourself said 'algebra is town or nk'

hm

05:28

true

therefore there is no way i am a mafia

you could be a politican tho

05:28

evillll

05:28

as bad as maf

so i will be stabbing you tonight to confirm myself

ok fine bet

sad thing is

05:29

The actual NK

me

you could be a politican tho

someone else claimed that right?

has a free invitation

if i dont get an attacked notif you're clearly town!

now

wait

:|

Lunexia on Osu!

has a free invitation

they do?

me

if i dont get an attacked notif you're clearly town!

noooooooooo theres no way im town

me

they do?

since we'd blame algebra

05:29

if u died

clearly you're town if im nk

Lunexia on Osu!

The actual NK

just say algebra, its easier to type

so bye ironfire

uh

05:29

lul

05:29

what if algebra dies instead

yes bye bye fake nk

05:30

you are dying tonight

hehe

05:30

sure sure

05:30

we'll see tmrw morning :)

inb4 ironfire is immune

in the meantime we should hammer eqsy to hurry up and get to the showdown

05:30

OOOOOOOOOH

~~also pelase tell me that vet is rollable~~

IRONFIRE IS VET

05:30

OOOOOOOOOOOOH

uh

~~there are no TK in this game~~

~~sht~~

i will visit confirmeed veteran

05:31

i fear nothing

just to spite them

05:31

D:

but would you visit a confirmed bodyguard doc pair

yeah now i know why people dont want to read chat

lol

05:32

fluffier than blankie

05:32

u.u

Algebra

yeah now i know why people dont want to read chat

wdym

because of people trolling and contributing nothing to the game

05:32

like me

bruh

05:32

You're still contributing

Algebra

like me

how dare you!

I'm 99% sure you and ironfire are not mafia together

me is contributing so much to the game

Like heck make that a 100%

hehe hey scumbuddy let's vote out lunex

D: don't vote your Tpow

05:33

silly

switched claim from solo coven!

05:33

on d1!

05:33

that sounds like a maf move ngl

Tpow is solo coven

05:34

Don't u see how broken a necro/poition master mix in this is?

o.o

if eqsy flips maf i'm pretty sure algebra is also maf btw

05:36

no im nk

05:37

wait no im me

05:37

ok this is a dillema

'paradox'

ur a paradox

05:38

anyway dan sent me the spec doc so

05:38

wait that's modcomms

05:38

ok mb

05:38

nvm

05:38

wait is it mod comms?

05:38

yea you just dont mention the host right

05:38

ok yea nvm

05:38

uh

There is no spec doc

05:39

There literally arent any spectators

ok cool so

05:39

can i say that or no

05:39

probably not ngl

amazing

Also

I haven’t sent anyone the sheet lol

?bean ironfire

cuz i was gonna say "it confirms me as nk"

05:39

?@Bean @me

ok rode

if you are really nk then stab me tonight

he's asleep

Ironfire isnt it like 4 am

probably

Cant u just

05:39

commit sleep

2am

05:39

uh

05:40

no u

go sleep

05:40

silly

no u

Algebra

if you are really nk then stab me tonight

i can't self target, alr asked ;-;

xDDDDDDD

05:40

SO FUNNY

wait no i didn't

:MAN:

i laughed

@The Game (Dan) can sk self target

05:40

ok anyway i changed my mind algebra is maf

05:40

moving on

Yeah

05:40

i agree

yeah

i saw the sneaky gun o.o

so true

Unless there is a redirector or transporter involved, the SK cannot self target

,

how to self vote

what code block is that btw

algebra kinda sussy

05:41

hes the maf

Algebra

how to self vote

/vote algebra

05:41

(c)

brainfuck

/vote algebra

wait a second

05:42

so hypothetically

05:42

like

yes?

.

Me what's going on

05:42

Tell

05:42

me 2

05:43

hm

05:43

how do i play off of this

05:43

gotta invest braincells in how to mess with nicknames instead of actual game

i don't know, but shouldn't me know

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

well me 2, how would me understand how 2 mean what me no i give up

05:44

too hard

?????/

;-;

xD

05:44

I destroyed ironfires braincells

me has adopted a state of confusion

victory royale

05:44

badabing

05:44

badabonk

Lunexia on Osu!

I destroyed ironfires braincells

one cannot destroy

what doent exist

what is in the hands of dragon

ok

05:44

Fair

05:44

How much debt?

uhm

You had to sell ur braincells?

05:45

242k usd

oof

well they're kinda worthless but

05:45

anything helps

05:45

yk

05:46

@me do me think eqsy is evil? me 2 thinks so

me 2 is too unwieldy

what does unwieldy mean?

05:46

uhm

05:47

hard to use?

05:47

in this context at least

05:47

ok anyway

yes?

i didn't read anything on eqsy at all and dont care if he's evil or not, just that it gives info on mike, jackson, you, and anyone who ints abt it later

mislynch > no lynch

true

Algebra

mislynch > no lynch

yeah

Algebra

mislynch > no lynch

true

we'll see, if eqsy ends up claiming we'll know more

05:49

doubt eqsy would just take the L

05:49

but besides algebra did nobody make an effort to question the wagon or defend the push

05:49

idk

i did

05:50

seems kinda random

05:50

and also i have a strong dislike towards sheeping

it is kinda random. it's pure gut read

05:50

mostly nasheds

05:50

Sheeping is fun UWU

hi i was pinged

06:03

anyway busy day today, sister is having her bday

06:03

will probs be offline for a hour of 5

sus.

Rude

Mel

Eqsy Quack Eqsy Eqsy Eqsy Person that asked who Nashed was Mike

He can't be bothered to type my name CatCry

hahaha

Bully

06:56

I forgot who said it

So I'm just forgettable sob

07:07

Oh well

Its not that gamer of you to vote the owner tbh

1000+ new messages…

Yes

EqsyLootz

Its not that gamer of you to vote the owner tbh

You not gonna properly defend yourself?

Meowy, what's the reason for your vote on algebra?

Probs scum who felt the need to vote without reading stuff just they Don't get singled out as a non voter

08:48

Idk tho

Berry

Now that's an accusation and a half if i've ever seen one

damn meow actually voted me

`?

08:50

@Algebra were they supposed to?

Lunexia on Osu!

Now that's an accusation and a half if i've ever seen one

Did I do good? Idk that's what nashed said to do last game

Lunexia on Osu!

@Algebra were they supposed to?

what does that mean

Algebra

damn meow actually voted me

This implies that there is a reason for the vote

08:50

Did you ask them or provocate?

Make accusations until someone cracks or what not

provoke*

Wha

08:51

no I did nothing

08:51

I just claimed serial killer and threatened to kill a guy, nothing serious

Lol

Thats obviously a joke

Because he said somewhere up there that he can’t possibly be town

08:58

At this stage it’s really just random

09:01

I’ll admit I haven’t read all the messages though

Not many would, if you do that's bonus points though

09:02

~~i would~~

Meowy

Because he said somewhere up there that he can’t possibly be town

insane scumreading

Well more seriously though he’s something

09:06

My neon green brother

09:06

Or sister

Meowy

Well more seriously though he’s something

yeah of course

09:07

i'm serial killer

09:07

i put it in my nick for a reason

09:08

oh and if you didnt see, im killing ironfire tonight to confirm myself, as he cced sk

09:08

i assume that he is 'attacking' me as well, but if so he's probably maf

You know that SK is evil

09:09

Right?

no im town siding sk

mhhh

09:10

Memephase kinda over btw

oh ok

09:11

ok then

Zen

You not gonna properly defend yourself?

why would I?

@Meowy claim

Dont claim

09:11

xd

Dont

09:11

lol

kinda sus for voting me

Mass claiming Day 1

09:11

is a terrible idea

@EqsyLootz stop

09:11

oh

09:11

yes

09:11

i agree

pardon?

09:11

Anyways, genuine scumread on Zenew due to fence sitting

EqsyLootz

Mass claiming Day 1

saw this

idk when i played werewolves on other servers everyoe claimed d1

@Meowy dont claim if ure town C:

jailor fakeclaims as well

EqsyLootz

why would I?

You're getting voted tho

Algebra

idk when i played werewolves on other servers everyoe claimed d1

claiming d1 bad

wow thats news to me

Zenew strikes me as off, their comment on ''You're not going to defend yourself?'' strikes me as a scum who's enjoying watching this unfold rather than a town who's genuinely concerned based on my situation.

people get flamed for 'soft-claiming' in servers i play in

Wut

and not claiming d1 is considered extremely sus

I'm just confused

man.

Must I really defend myself though Zen? We're less than 24 hours in the day there is no need for me to towncase myself.

Algebra

people get flamed for 'soft-claiming' in servers i play in

Bad servers

09:13

but i mean soft claiming

09:13

Can be stupid

Actually

09:13

Well

And can be good

Not really

soft claiming is kinda dumb

it supports your claim later on

Well I’m going to sleep soon don’t want to not have done anything. I may or may not change my vote before days over

But I don't like it much

EqsyLootz

Must I really defend myself though Zen? We're less than 24 hours in the day there is no need for me to towncase myself.

I guess not, but like you're getting votes? Shouldn't you at least like speak out about it?

I'm not concerned

Maybe eqsy can just have everyone unvote by claiming

09:15

idk

09:15

smth like that

yes lol

09:15

definitely

09:15

but nah in my times of playing MU

I'm asking geniully cuz I don't play this stuff so I'm just confused if this normal or something

I've become a much more competant player in this regards

09:15

I probably won't claim Day 1

Zen

I'm asking geniully cuz I don't play this stuff so I'm just confused if this normal or something

Some people panic

09:15

Some people chill

09:15

Depends on the player

I don't panic :p

Some people like to defend themselves a lot when pushed

Okay

Some people don't really bother

if you wanna check my scum meta

09:16

go check out my most recent MU game

So it's just normal then?

what is MU

Zen

So it's just normal then?

depends on the player

Mafia Universe

09:16

the biggest mafia site

eqsy likes to get defensive if pushed as evil D:

Ah

09:16

So

There we go now Lune knows my meta.

They might not be bad?

I just shrug it off as town and tend to present my case as evil :p

Well i mean

Off their meta?

Changing your meta for a game if you do so on purpose isn't super hard

Don't worry too much about meta

09:17

the best mafia players switch up their meta. Well im not saying im good or anything

09:17

but i've been practicing switching up my meta

09:17

to make it impossible for people to meta read me.

EqsyLootz

to make it impossible for people to meta read me.

Meta reading me

09:17

Is

09:18

SO easy

09:18

I'm either blatantly town

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Or i play like trash

xD

Lune it's been a while since I've been able to play with you

09:18

So

09:18

Ill give you a town lean for the meantime

I take it back

09:18

that smile

09:18

is scary

Lol

right into your soul

09:18

which you do not have

true

I should probably go check what the new roles do huh

09:19

I have this bad habit

09:19

of joining a game

09:19

but not looking at the rolecards

Btw eqsy if ure tp

09:19

be on me

09:19

I'm tpow

09:19

Oh yeah I need to look at them too

09:20

I only checked like 1

@Algebra true Tpow neveer fake

09:20

>:)

what is a Tpow

Town power

09:21

alignment

huh

Jailor mayor etc

jailor meta

So dictator is just mayor but one time?

09:21

And stronger

Yeah

Dictator is op

09:25

I'm totally not a citizen claiming tpow

09:25

Call my bluff mafia

09:25

>:)

Anyway yeah i'm totally not tpow

09:25

Stay away from me tp

09:25

Protect important people

09:25

Mafai wont attack me

anyways my break is over.

09:25

Gotta go continue my cooking class project

Bye eqsyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

09:26

OOOOOOOOOH

its literally a 10 hour project

09:26

cya

O /

ngl im impressed by how active this day 1 is compared to usual

10:50

1.7k messages

no u

11:04

Wdym usual

11:04

The past games were 5 and 9p

11:04

and i wasnt playing

11:04

And the aa i was mafia

11:04

So i was afk

11:04

D:

o-o

me

?@Bean @me

ping

@Bean scum?

no u

Lunexia on Osu!

Memephase kinda over btw

;-; memephase never over

EqsyLootz

Must I really defend myself though Zen? We're less than 24 hours in the day there is no need for me to towncase myself.

weren't you L-3

yes.

What?

you coulda been hammered

12:18

o.o

No one is stupid enough to hammer me

sounds like a good reason for towncase

12:18

mafia exists

Especially if its a few hours in

12:18

Whoever hammers me

so unless you're implying that it was 4 scum/sk

gets lynched tomorrow

12:18

thats how it works.

everything is justifiable

12:19

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you hammer someone day 1, without consensus nor proper reasoning you are scum trying to get a kill or a god awful town

12:19

that's it

anything can be used as "proper reasoning", and the fact that you got lynched would indicate "consensus"

12:20

anyway idrt that your basis of "we had 24 hrs left so i didn't defend myself" works when that just sounds like "i need more time for a good claim"

Why are you trying to force a claim out of me, what is your goal here?

im not :)

12:22

im just saying that your logic is flawed

12:22

do as you wish

12:22

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ironfire is town

sounds like ''I need more ligic for a good claim''

12:22

I know

12:22

they're arguments are weird

12:22

they're saying they want me to defend myself

Yeah it's ironfire

It makes sense in his head

12:22

And that's all that counts

Alright

12:22

here

nice of you to acknowledge that i have a head u.u

Zenew is scum, discuss

why

^

@ScarletShroud did you forget you joined this?

Zen

is there framer in this mode

Derp denied.

wait

12:24

how new is zen

zen's second game

12:24

Zen replaced into one more for final day

Zen

You not gonna properly defend yourself?

Fence sit

outside experience with social deception?

EqsyLootz

Fence sit

What is fence sit

me

outside experience with social deception?

ToS 4 years ago

cuz if they're a genuinely new player their actions make sense

And orgs i think

it means you try to shade someone else and pick off some easy reads

12:24

more or less

12:24

for example someone is getting accused

12:25

and you join in present a few arguments

12:25

and just watch people screw eachother over

12:25

its a sense of opportunism

12:25

not getting too involved but getting involved enough to cause chaos

uh

12:25

i think i did that for my first 40 games

12:25

Look their derp leads me to strongly believe they are scum

12:26

Newbie!scums tend to say

12:26

Oh wait there's 3 mafia this game?

12:26

I thought there was 4

12:26

or wait Godfather can roll this game?

me last game

they pretend they dont know anything about the mafia

12:26

when in reality chances are they are in the mafia.

what

their Derp and Fence Sitting/opportunism leads me to believe they're scum

they were like "awo eqsy just pushed me"

They knew a framer was in the game

12:27

They just said they didnt

12:27

so they look like town

hm ok

its a common newcomer strat

12:28

i see what you're getting at

12:28

so therefore since this is a godplayer strat

12:28

lynch you, then move on from there?

12:28

cuz now we get info on zen as well :o

nah

@me do prods in an hour

@The Game (Dan)

12:28

prods

12:28

in an hour

._.

anywa we don have a reason to keep you alive without a good claim o.o

12:29

:)

Citizen,

12:29

there you go

12:29

enjoy that

12:29

Im either lying or im Lying

12:29

which one is it

12:30

I told you im not claimin day 1

uh

12:31

what's the diff between lying and Lying

figure it out

12:40

YES

12:40

(wrong channeL)

hmm

12:41

i can see what you're getting at eqsy with your claims

12:41

well idk about fence sitting part cuz still not 100% sure what that means

you like uh

but the acting oblivious

@The Game (Dan) remember to do prods in an hour

12:42

yw

EqsyLootz

it means you try to shade someone else and pick off some easy reads

this?

Zenew honestly if you didnt comment on not knowing framer existed I wouldnt have much of an issue

12:42

but now its your job to convince me alright?

12:43

present where your reads at

12:43

and ill establish off of there.

so i should just tell you what i think about people?

just I do see a repeating pattern where that happens

12:43

well choice is yours

12:43

take your time

12:43

just play normally

not like defend myself or?

do whatever you feel like doing

12:43

There's no point in forcing anyone to do anything

i guess so

12:44

but i haven't done tos stuff like this in a while

12:44

i played mafia

12:44

but there's like way less special people there

overall, the best strategy to properly read someone

12:44

is let them do their own thing

12:45

not force them to give reads or provide content

i see

eqsy give reads and content rn

lol

12:45

but anyways

12:45

i don't have many reads rn as D1 and mostly non game talk

12:45

but i think

EqsyLootz

They knew a framer was in the game

i was thinking why "framer" exactly not any other role

read context

12:46

mhm

eqsy is a good just based of how they're trying to pressure info out of people which is something nashed did in our previous game as a good

the context for framer

12:46

is because I made a joke

someone pushed them for being scum from ti

saying I red checked them

12:47

so they asked if a framer was in the game

thinkathonk

me

eqsy give reads and content rn

12:47

jkjk

12:47

im still in math class atm

12:47

not really concentrating

12:47

as its easy stuff

/j btw

12:48

do as you wish

well imma be honest i thought there was pre day 1 actions cuz sometimes there are in some games

12:48

and i didn't really read the rules when i singed up cuz lazy and lots of text

12:48

you can probably still see that comment in sign up (idk if this is like out of game stuff cheating?)

EqsyLootz

There's no point in forcing anyone to do anything

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

that's something i'd say´as mafia

why

When i push a townie and i actuallywant them to TR me

what's TR

town read

ah

awawa

also me is ironfire?

me is me

Lunexia on Osu!

that's something i'd say´as mafia

how so?

yea me is ironfire

<.<

12:50

okay

Lunexia on Osu!

When i push a townie and i actuallywant them to TR me

Oh

but you can call me me

12:51

wait

12:51

"oh"?

well if zen wasn't new to the game

12:51

i'd be on them like a hawk

/banned

But they're new so im cutting some slakc

i smell scum

shouldn't you just do as normal?

12:51

even if i'm new

i also smell food

12:51

and i want ofod

Very well,

:o

oop

welp zen you just got a master ranked player to toggle on you

12:52

uhm

12:52

have fun

Zen convince me you're not scum you're still a scumread

remember them to wdr for ka and reach post game

12:52

uhm

12:52

i shouldn't claim

Claiming isn't a good idea

cuz d1

unless you're about to be lynched

yes

12:53

okay

there's still 24 hours im the only vote on you

12:53

chances are you won't be the final wagon

yea! so if ur maf you can just exit chat

12:53

:)

lemme go downstairs on my pc first

12:53

family just came back so upstairs loud

oki

alright

12:56

so uh

12:57

the arguments against me were that i'm faking not knowing there was a framer in this mode and that i fencesit which is like accusing people for no reason?

gutread scum on nashed

12:59

they're excessive emojis and awkward posts strike me the wrong way

12:59

its not something town can say

12:59

dont ask me to elaborate on it

12:59

becuase I can't.

okay then

12:59

well

by the way

13:02

eqsy

13:02

they're = they are, their = possessive

SHUSH

13:03

I literally have

13:03

my teacher

13:03

talking in my ears

13:03

I could care less

13:03

about my grammar

kok is unusually quiet in terms of game but might just be cuz of the little time that has passed

13:05

turtle already claimed a role

13:05

with no apparent cc

13:06

Nashed is also way more quiet than our last game so he's probably a citz or just busy with irl stuff

13:07

and i think that's all the people i played with before

13:07

except algebra

13:07

but he insta claimed jailor in the other game

13:07

is algebra a he?

Is that important

13:08

yes?

okay

i wanna make sure i use the right pronouns if possible

kay

would rather not make people uncomfy...

Zen

kok is unusually quiet in terms of game but might just be cuz of the little time that has passed

Nah kokichi is always afk

13:09

never seen kokichi be actually useful beyond saying hi

oh so last game was the odd one out?

Probably

13:09

yeah

ah

Zen

Nashed is also way more quiet than our last game so he's probably a citz or just busy with irl stuff

Nashed is just busy grinding fortnite xD

ah

13:10

reading is a lot easier after a few days have passed

13:10

it sure is

13:11

Day one reads are all speculation and gut feelings. But they help a lot, since you can look what people said day one on later days. (:

13:11

And well there's also actual reads day one like you being maf for fence sitting

Day 1 is considered the most important day

really?

it's like building a foundation for a house

13:12

Everything else builds on top of it

huh i guess that makes sense

13:15

also rip i still don't get how i did fence sitting

13:15

eqsy points to me asking him if he's not gonna defend himself after getting voted

13:16

but i'm wondering how me asking that counts as trying to make chaos

fence sitting doesn't mean making chaos

13:17

it was the wrong term

oh

13:17

can you explain it then

13:17

cuz i thought that was it

so lunex why the vote switch?

13:22

wait nvm

13:22

probably pressure

probably

13:24

hmm

13:24

i don't really wanna vote eqsy out today tho

13:25

and ofc i'd rather not go out either

it's d1 lol

13:25

anyone you particularly want dead?

EqsyLootz

Day 1 is considered the most important day

every day is the most important day on that day

not really all the people i've played with before are acting normalish or have a reason for acting different

13:26

and i don't have any gut reads

13:26

zach is probably the only one i'd consider

13:26

but not even him that much

13:27

oh nice mario is playing

13:28

@Lunexia on Osu! can i ask why everyone voted quack early?

Zen

@Lunexia on Osu! can i ask why everyone voted quack early?

because quack ccd me tpow claim

13:28

@Quack-Attack

13:28

you explain

tpow?

13:29

town protective

13:29

oh

13:29

town power

13:29

duh

i claim serial killer

13:33

mwahaha

i cc that

MARIO

13:34

hi

look

13:34

it's not mod abuse

what

mod interference

what

im going back to sleep

oh ok

13:35

night mario

it's only 12:40 smh

13:36

technically afternoon

EqsyLootz

the best mafia players switch up their meta. Well im not saying im good or anything

tell me how to do this

EqsyLootz

the best mafia players switch up their meta. Well im not saying im good or anything

imagine having meta in the first place

Lunexia on Osu!

you explain

Uhh I claimed veteran earlier and obviously thats a unique role and lune cced me as investigator duh

hmmmm quack sus for being cced

My meta is complaining about not being able to read

13:37

so now I'll complain about being able to read but badly

13:37

done

13:37

switched my meta

Quack-Attack

tell me how to do this

troll the hell out of one game then tryhard the next.

cool

13:37

now switch it back

but I still dont even know how to play mafia ;-;

i don't either ;-;

listen to chemist

you just point and click

Call everyone who calls you scum, scum Call everyone who calls you scum that is confirmed town bad.

yeah that doesn't work for me eqsy

13:38

my arguments usually make sense

13:39

and isn't based off of something stupid

13:39

im being noticed right .-.

13:39

or do you all have me blocked still

Actually how do I properly do reads on stuff

13:40

I was never actually told how

OH I just realized Mario Joined the game

I want to try but my reads always are very surface level

13:40

Meme

rip Shroud :(

13:40

I should probs unblock Mario now huh

best mafia strat

13:41

block everyone in the game

13:41

they can hear you

13:41

but you cant hear their BS

13:41

easy

Mario MVP

i claim serial killer

been there, done that

i see why eqsy is halfway to majority already

Mario MVP

my arguments usually make sense

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

14:25

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA+

14:25

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

14:25

I'm towntelling

that's just me trolling

14:26

Fair

SHUSH

isn't mario like

14:36

"one cannot find trends in a set of data with absolutely no correlation at all whatseover"

What

14:44

isn’t quack like

14:44

town

Checking in. What's up?

hi o/

16:32

what's your role

Town Citizen.

We found the liar

16:38

I redchecked you as sheriff

16:38

Whats your actual role

Yep

Cringing

Citizen.

arent we all

Lunexia on Osu!

Depends on the player

I thought you were gonna rhyme here like Some people panic Some people chill Some people like your guts to spill >:)

EqsyLootz

Zenew is scum, discuss

How about instead of getting us to discuss, you explain your read.

How about you read.

21:08

I explained my reasoning like 15 messages below that

EqsyLootz

gutread scum on nashed

Kind of convenient that you say this after I express my direct interest in you dead.

Lunexia on Osu!

Nashed is just busy grinding fortnite xD

Mayhaps

EqsyLootz

I explained my reasoning like 15 messages below that

You went on to say your read was based in a joke or did I misremember.

21:14

I believe you said that afterwards anyway

Mel

You went on to say your read was based in a joke or did I misremember.

you clearly didn.t read then.

Mel

Kind of convenient that you say this after I express my direct interest in you dead.

what was this reasoning again^

21:15

is it just me or did Nashed not read rather just ISO me.

I did, but I also just woke up. From memory you said that you found it kind of forceful that they asked if there was a Framer or something.

yes.

You said that I used awkward wording and emoji's yes?

not forcement

21:15

but derp denied.

21:15

Nashed, gutread

21:16

I can't elaborate.

I understand that you cannot explain gut-reads but you gave reasonings for me so it's not really a gutread

Gutreads are considered reads with weak evidence that can't be elaborated on

21:16

of which I did.

What makes the zen derp-deny come from scum more than town.

Pardon?

21:17

how so.

I am asking you what makes Zen scummier from that.

because based on history of coming from newbies, newcomer scum have a tendency to do derps and say they didn't look at rolelist and dk the scum roles

21:18

for example saying: Oh I didn't know there were 4 mafia I thought there were 3

21:18

or: Oh I didn't know Framer could roll this game

21:18

those kind of remarks either come from a town who's simply not paying attention or majority of the time it's scum trying to get town cleared off of their derpyness.

21:18

uk

21:18

I'm not saying i'm certain on this read

21:18

It just struck me as off.

My personal experience I find those types of reads lead you down false rabbit-holes personally so you'll probably have to case them harder than that to be able to have me vote there.

Any read can lead you down a false rabbit hole

21:20

now tell me nashed, what exactly in your case against me^

21:20

I keep thinking im on french keyboard

21:20

so I accidentally do ^

21:20

smh

21:20

rather than ?

21:20

Shift 6 on French keyboard gives a Question mark not an up arrow

Personally, from the way Zen has been acting I am going to lean into town-leaning them more than anything. They've been actively trying to improve and have no reason to scum-read them. I constantly do not read newer lists until I join them (bad habit I know).

Trying to improve does not equal town

21:21

same as activity does not equal town

"and I have no reason to scum-read them"

21:21

That's what I would call a gut read personally.

Alright

EqsyLootz

now tell me nashed, what exactly in your case against me^

.

They've been trying to make reads, improve on their errors from the last game regarding content etc and that gives me no reason to scum-read them so I am going to town-lean them for the time being.

EqsyLootz

now tell me nashed, what exactly in your case against me^

I missed this one.

Yeah thanks for confirming no one should trust your read against me

21:23

Nor any read of yours at alll.

21:23

Sheeesh

21:23

Keep Zenew at Null

21:23

if you have no reason to scumread htem

That is complete misrepresentation

21:23

You cannot tell me where i should place my reads

I'm not saying that

21:25

I'm just saying, lol

Early game you were leaning too far into RVS, like too far for my liking. You were constantly "screaming" that you wanted to be top-town without the content to back it up. When you actually decide to throw content out, your logic was not as substantial as I had wanted (which is NAI by itself), you also throw in an OMGUS vote on yours truly which does not look well for you. Everything you do is literally telling me that you're trying to force yourself into the top-town spot without trying to actively "earn" that spot.

21:26

You cannot even back up the read, so if it's real that's one hell of a bad coincidence but it looks so incredibly bad.

I just backed up my zenew read???

You know exactly what I mean about the omgus

What?

21:27

Zenew?

Me dude

yes

21:27

I figured such

21:27

but I never voted you.

21:27

Wasn't planning on

21:27

it*

21:28

Nashed I know it's been a while since you played against me but sheesh it's like you never played with me before.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

1. You literally had 127 etc posts, you then kept going over the top with what you were saying. Insanely so like jesus christ. 2. You are just as experienced as myself, time-wise and I would expect you to not just throw out the time especially when you said yourself that D1 is the most important day. 3. I meant you're throwing suspicion onto me, I don't know why I said vote probably just habit.

Your arguments 1 and 2 aint the greatest

21:30

but evidentally it's been a while since I played Discord Mafia

21:30

So it is a lil more difficult to properly read

21:30

i've stated my reads previously

21:30

its your fault for not looking over them

21:30

Iirc day ends in less than 24 hours

You had no actual real read until Zen and myself from what I remember.

so we'll figure out from there on out

21:30

@The Game (Dan) you need to do prods.

Everything prior was a meme

Mel

You had no actual real read until Zen and myself from what I remember.

Ironfire, Lune - Townread

Town-reads can come from anybody, scum included. Scum-reads are the ones that a harder for scum to fabricate

21:31

So I generally throw any town-read out when I am talking about reads.

Sometimes the best way to establish scumreads

21:31

is to built a towncore

21:32

from there narrow down the scumreads in a smaller pool

Does that mean you should just not scum-read? No, are you insane

if you focus only on scumreads it isn't beneficial as I could scumread anyone here for any specific message

21:32

It's more important to find town before scum imo

It's actually easier for scum to blend in with that method than one where everybody tries to find scum directly.

21:33

Since scum can just say "oh they're scum from poe"

21:33

Instead of actually casing them

21:33

Since from a scum perspective it'll be harder to case someone since they have a false perspective than it would for town to case someone.

21:34

So you can definitely use PoE to solve, but do not ever stop scum-reading people with logic as well.

My point is feel free to have scumreads

21:54

i scumread and townread as well

21:54

I just focus more on finding townie players

21:55

compared to scummy players

And I am saying that scum find it easier to play like that as well so I am going to read accordingly.

Right now we're arguing over playstyles which is irrelevant to the game

people making actual content?!?!??!?!

:o

Ok so I’m like first game ever brand new

22:57

If we don’t have anything else to go on besides play style is no lynch an option

22:57

Doesn’t it benefit maf more if we just randomly select one person?

not really

23:02

no lynching gives no information

23:02

and gives mafia a kill

23:02

even if we mislynch we have information on who pushed them and so on

23:03

no lynchign is only beneficial late game

yes

23:10

Besides lynches arent fully random at this point

23:10

they're usually educated guesses based on the way people have been talking

But wouldn’t we still have all the info just from talking? As long as voting doesn’t reach majority

No-lynch also removes that option later on as it makes it a strategically worse option if it's already been done.

And I think it unfairly put players who doesn’t want to vote or have any read to make indefensible decisions

23:23

Oh is it just a one time only thing

No-lynch without mechanical reasonings beyond the chance of hitting town should never be done.

23:31

The lynch has a 5/15 chance of hitting scum. SK kill has 4/14 chance of killing scum. Mafia kill has a 0/14 chance of killing scum. The Town lynch is by far the most efficient way of getting rid of evils. Thus we cannot waste it. A lynch also removes false-leads, such as a town that looks scummy and may end up being the lynch when Mafia/SK is one lynch away from winning for example. The only commonly found valid reason to no-lynch would be in MyLo, which means Mislynch and Lose. That means if we lynch Town, evils will gain majority with their kill. For example in a 4v2. We elim and they kill lands in a 2v2. Where if we no-lynch we land into a 3v2 going into the next day, which since there is less Town to solve, it puts us in a better position.

23:35

Mafia has a 0% chance of killing scum. SK has a 28.5% chance of killing scum Town has a 33.3% chance of hitting scum.

im going to say eqsy and nashed are tvt

Ok I guess that makes sense to an extent, I just think the mislynch chance and potential minus one turn for maf to outnumber town is riskier than taking the info gained by having only one town killed at night by maf

00:21

I’m assuming lynched people are silenced?

so yes this is a common new player idea

00:22

yea

00:22

they can't talk

00:22

cuz they die

So we lose on valuable info if we hit an important town

mechanically yes

Like I get what nashed is saying

00:23

But eh

Meowy

So we lose on valuable info if we hit an important town

That is why we get claims before hammering people.

so like

00:23

lynching d1 provides info for people that voted/people that were against the lynch

00:24

in addition, it provides a sht ton of useful info to the maf for who to target

00:24

but nobody talks abt that

00:24

so yea

Information is both mafia and town's greatest asset.

mhm

We have a protective

but there's more town than maf!

So early-game claims aren't as importnat

00:24

That is not what I meant

00:25

I mean claims aren't as bad

which means higher chance for carries to be in town! which means this is op!

00:25

oh u

00:25

uh

00:25

i was going on my own point

00:25

don mind me

I am confusedf

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02:22

I did more was than you

02:22

hahaha

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02:32

ayaya

When is EoD?

Now

03:43

Day end

03:43

Quack was lynched

03:43

He was genie

EqsyLootz

those kind of remarks either come from a town who's simply not paying attention or majority of the time it's scum trying to get town cleared off of their derpyness.

I agree with this. I did this too back then.

Mel

When is EoD?

5:20pm UTC

Approx. 9 1/2 hours from now

ok just gonna let you know I may not be on when day end lmao

I will very likely be asleep

04:08

Don't waste this day dudes, make sure you don't just sheep someone trying to cfd near EoD if you do not actually believe in the read.

Lets waste this day

04:12

Jk jk

04:13

Oh no

04:13

Mario is in here now

@Mike, best mini golfer does the unvote mean you disagree with the wagon now?

04:14

What are your reads

It was a meme tbh

04:18

Thats why i unvoted

Alrighty, how about the reads?

Cant really rn, school

04:18

Will look more into it when home

04:19

In about 6 hours

I'll be asleep by then

04:19

So you'll not be getting my input when you do

Srry man, maybe during lunch

All goods

But really gtg back to work now

Good luck aha

From what i see is if Zen flips maf nashed is also maf.

04:24

Or very likely mafia at least

04:26

Okay so, if eqsy is lynched. What does eqsy being dead give us? If eqsy is flipping maf i

04:26

I'm thinking nashed is cleard

04:26

If eqsy flips town then what

i'll be asleep in 9 hours

Meowy

Ok I guess that makes sense to an extent, I just think the mislynch chance and potential minus one turn for maf to outnumber town is riskier than taking the info gained by having only one town killed at night by maf

if you think like that then you won't ever have enough information in all the later days in many of the lists that are run. And not having any information from lynches is very bad, even if it gives you the benefit of finding your eventual demise slower than with them. Lynches are important to potentially hit scum and confirm people that pushed that person. People that pushed very hard on players that ended up being town can be seen as less trustworthy as scum obviously likes misslynches to happen. Furthermore if certain players deliberately decide to have no stance on any lynch, then they're more often than not also scum. It's better for a townie to take a side than not taking any side at all. Since if you are getting better at the game the chances of taking the side, or even leading the side that ends up lynching an evil player gets higher. Higher than not wanting to lynch at all anyway.

Meowy

Ok I guess that makes sense to an extent, I just think the mislynch chance and potential minus one turn for maf to outnumber town is riskier than taking the info gained by having only one town killed at night by maf

I used to think like this

04:53

Oh boy the day 1 fights we got out of it

Lunexia on Osu!

From what i see is if Zen flips maf nashed is also maf.

Mind elaborating on this, also please add if one flips Town what does that make the other etc.

Lunexia on Osu!

Or very likely mafia at least

I corrected myself a little bit here. Not necessarily, but i would be very convinced myself. I personally agree with eqsy's approach and argument. I did this myself and in the recent all any i did see the new players use this or at least a similar kind of thinking and approach. Not saying it makes Zen look 100% maf. But it's definitely a valid argument.

05:04

Also the fact that Zen asked for there being a framer specifically is very odd, not any other role, just framer. Why framer?

05:04

Since framer is the only standard mafia role confirmed

05:04

it's really weird

Can you stop right now, if I am right about something I think dropping this conversation now is needed.

Duh

05:08

Well i'm voting Zen

Do you see what I am seeing or no?

Yes

But it's speculation

We can always push that later

I don't like your eqsy push. Not like, as in, i don't want to support it.

05:09

~~eqsy pocketed me~~

Your wording is confusing

05:10

So you don't agree with my logic

nop

As in you don't agree with my logic or is there a different reason lmfao

05:10

Please say in words so I am not as confused

I don't agree with your RVS argument

And why might that be

Because it was the first 100 posts

05:11

If you look at my first 100 posts

I totally accept if I am kinda culture-shocked since I am used to MafiaScum

You can say the same

05:11

I was talking bs too

05:12

So it doesn't strike me as suspicious

It's not that they were talking bs, it's that they were seemingly pushing themself into the top-town status with no content which is what I do not like.

What made you think they were trying to get into such a position?

05:13

I think i made an effort myself

05:13

And so did you

05:13

But at least we made content

05:13

i guess

05:13

~~Although mine is pretty shet~~

Please read backwards through their ISO

05:14

I am busy with the bot to iso-dive and quote things.

Lunexia on Osu!

I think i made an effort myself

What do you mean?

Trying to make content and get established as town early on

05:15

Anyway guess i make the iso on eqsy

I am not trying to do that, I am just playing the game.

~~although i already read all the messages and couldn't find what you were saying~~

Mel

I am not trying to do that, I am just playing the game.

fair

Maybe it's a personality conflict of sorts.

05:16

Although I still don't like their slot.

EqsyLootz, the Solo Town — 08/06/2021

I have a theory, when I pressured Zen into claiming they immediately claimed they ahd to go and were busy it seems odd

replying to this ^ Lunexia, the solo Coven — 08/06/2021

You asked for a claim? Wait You never did Why would u say that

Eqsy never picked up on that again and later presented a more reasonable argument against Zen.

05:20

hmm

Lunexia on Osu!

Since framer is the only standard mafia role confirmed

it's not standard tho

06:02

last game there wasn't a framer

06:02

only goons

Standard as in on the wiki

06:02

And confirmed

06:02

To be in the game

06:02

06:03

dw

and the reason i asked if there was a framer is because eqsy said they checked me and i came out as sus

It's just a little odd

06:03

Nothing serious

Zen

and the reason i asked if there was a framer is because eqsy said they checked me and i came out as sus

it is

06:03

Day one

~~some games let you do actions prior to D1~~

That is very very rare

depends

and would've been told so in the signup ^^

i have a lot of board games where is like that

they're definitely deviants in mafia

06:04

But fiar

06:04

You're still new so i take it

~~also i was too lazy to read sign ups~~

06:05

there was a lot of text

That's on you then

in the pins

Can't blame us for being onto you when you didn't bother reading the signup

fair

06:06

Lune

Si?

do you have any reads outside of me and eqsy and that conflict

Yes

06:07

But nothing solid

cuz i don't really wanna vote eqsy

06:07

they seem sorta town to me

They kinda

06:07

did the scum pushes townie to town read them thing

the waht

i push you, then i tell you all is fine

06:08

Make you nervous then use that to replace it with trust

<.<

anyway i really need to read this thing my prof posted

um

06:08

oki

06:08

good luck?

lol it's jsut an announcement, but i think i should read it

Zen

in the pins

Blame Lune for pinning everything for no reason

probably

06:09

lol

I personally would like to blame mario.

06:09

For that one.

what did mario pin?

yee

06:10

i only see one pinned message here too

that's in #deleted-channel

06:11

all the pinsss

oh i see

06:14

lol

Alr so anyone understand the whole nashed vs eqsy thing

06:15

I honestly dont know wtf do to with it

stab eqsy

Ok?

then based on what happens we stab either zen, jackson, lunex, or quack

06:16

:)

Cant we stab you

06:20

And you just, idk give us a sign from the ghost realm, bc ghosts know everything and you know the maf

06:20

Works 100%

logic

Yeeeee

well i didn't wanna lynch eqsy before but now lune's comment got me worried if i'm being manipulated

06:21

and now idk what to do

Go with your gut

Would it be bad if we voted algebra out you think?

07:14

They voted ironfire for no clear reason, and they're said to be sk or town

07:15

And if they somehow flip mafia then eqsy is likely mafia too?

07:15

This is just me reading older content from chat so it might not be right tho

07:15

Feel free to correct me

Zen

They voted ironfire for no clear reason, and they're said to be sk or town

I think algebra was memeing with ironfire

07:26

As they both claimed SK

07:26

And voted each other

Mario MVP

im going to say eqsy and nashed are tvt

mario is town.

08:05

@The Game (Dan) when is day end?

2 hours i think

08:05

Maybe 3

08:06

Vote is gut

08:06

Gonna leave it there

08:06

Bye

EqsyLootz

mario is town.

So you scum-read me because I scum-read you, and town-read mario because they town-read you. Bruh lmfaoo

You see

Jokes aside

there's this thing called

08:10

reading

Elaborate on that read?

Scum don't call out TvT

08:10

I've never seen scum do it

Why

only town

08:11

In my history of playing mafia scum don't call out TvT in fear of lowering PoE size

I will respectively disagree, although I play on a MS which is day-play heavyu

EqsyLootz

In my history of playing mafia scum don't call out TvT in fear of lowering PoE size

That does make sense

we'll see.

We shall

08:11

>:) /dayvig mario

h

08:12

Nashed just claimed dictator

08:12

don't lynch me you bastard

08:12

jkjk

EqsyLootz

@The Game (Dan) when is day end?

5:20PM UTC
5 hours from now

5?

08:16

oop

Yes

Zen

Would it be bad if we voted algebra out you think?

I second this, am not memeing

08:24

My lurking noobish read

Fair

who hasn't been given a lot of spotlight

08:24

lemme think

Super

08:24

zach

08:24

Meowy

08:25

Bean

08:25

Bea

@The Game (Dan) tip: Do prods

(/they're different people)

I noticed one person who is prodded

Don't do prods 5 hours b4 day end D:

considering they haven't posted since June the 8th

Also mari

08:25

o

08:25

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

08:25

get

08:26

over

08:26

here

Kokichi also

08:26

Yes

08:26

Arrest kokichi

08:26

I heard them planning stabby business

EqsyLootz

@The Game (Dan) tip: Do prods

I’m at school

who needs to be prodded

08:30

we can just ping them

08:30

that's allowed yea?

The Game (Dan)

I’m at school

Skip class

08:31

just walk on out of there.

08:31

Mafia > School

08:31

jkjk

bad advice

08:31

lol

I got caught skiving on Tuesday so I can’t anymore
If I get caught again I’ll be in serious trouble :P

h

Zen

Would it be bad if we voted algebra out you think?

good idea

anyway im just planning to vote whenever a guy is on 7 votes

09:11

because lynch is fun

That probably won't happen

yeah true

09:12

well we couldtry spam pinging people to vote on eqsy or something, since they already have many votes (edited)

I don't think eqsy is evil

uh is it normal that i can ping alive line sp

09:14

itlooks like i can?

Yes it is

wait

09:15

so mass pinging is allowed here

Semi

wow!

It's not done often

well time to-

Well i hope you have a good reason to ping everyone (:

Please don't mass-ping when it's not necessary

09:21

But the option is always there

09:22

I can't catch up at the moment and I'm going to sleep, probably

We should probably decide on a vote before more people have to get off for the day

I have returned

EqsyLootz

Nashed just claimed dictator

Mayhaps

Zen

we can just ping them

We can but that's kind of a dick move when they're going to get prodded anyway.

wait

The Game (Dan)

I got caught skiving on Tuesday so I can’t anymore
If I get caught again I’ll be in serious trouble :P

I thought you said skydiving lmfaooo

who claimed politician

Mike

Mel

I thought you said skydiving lmfaooo

didn't I do this exact same thing like a few days ago

Turtle

If that's the miller/bp combo

But serious tho

AHAHAHA

@The Game (Dan) stop using the word skiving

We are the same person

yes

09:42

So

We need Vote

You're locktown now since if we're the same person we have the same role obviously

Algebra

well we couldtry spam pinging people to vote on eqsy or something, since they already have many votes (edited)

Not a huge fan of this post

we're both dictators

Neat

Thoughts on that post @EqsyLootz

@Zen any last words?

09:42

Idk they are relatively new

09:42

seems opportunistic

It does seem opportunistic

Well can I suggest an algebra vote since they're not gonna provide anything useful as town probably?

bet

God damn it, I am now paranoid

Any thoughts instead of just

09:44

"Bet"

bet

09:44

I see

If algebra flips red at any point, eqsy is cleared.

How come?

Same with the reverse.

09:45

Because scum would not act this opportunistic to yeet their buddy, at least 9 times out of 10

Mel

If algebra flips red at any point, eqsy is cleared.

nah

09:45

I think if Zen flips scum im cleared.

You cant' really say that about yourself

09:46

It is also semi-void because you said so

Hm

09:46

Alr then

https://tenor.com/view/played-gif-13534492

but if I'm dictator doesn't that mean I get auto cleared when I send Zenew to lynching

I mean... sus... but yes

sus what/

>;)

Nashed who are you sending to death^

As in who do I want eliminated?

no

09:47

like

09:47

u claimed dictator

09:47

so who are you lynchign

I wasn't serious, but I am not not claiming it

yes you did

09:48

you claimed it^

yes.

I am yeeting you then

09:48

go ahead.

09:48

:D

D:

you should get TP on you though

09:48

as Mafia would want to get rid of Tpow asap

TP should go on Mike

well

As dictator is immunethe night after the reveal

Dictator is better then politician

09:49

oh

09:49

are they?

Yee

I looked over that.

09:49

oh yeah

09:49

it says in attributes

09:50

wait

09:50

but politician

09:50

survives the first night they get attacked

09:50

Has a 1-shot BP yes

09:50

But that would be better to not be wasted

so nashed

Assuming TP's take priority

you willing to move your vote^

EqsyLootz

@The Game (Dan) stop using the word skiving

I can say what I want

@The Game (Dan) does TP take priority

09:50

Over a BP

Yes it does

Yeah so TP should spam Mike for the foreseeable future

09:51

Or WIFOM

Nashed

09:52

you willing to move your vote?

Why?

09:52

I am willing if a case is made, or if I decide a vote elsewhere holds more weight.

alr

09:53

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

09:53

@Deleted User provide content

09:53

can I activity ping?

09:53

ill do that in 2 hours

Uh

09:53

So

09:53

What happened

Nashed claimed dictator

09:53

said they're going to lynch me

09:53

so im preparing my grave

Nono i mean like the vote

09:54

You just said bet and then pretend it didn't exist

09:54

EqsyLootz

Nashed claimed dictator

Bruh

EqsyLootz

u claimed dictator

Who claimed?

nashed

Bruh again

what???

I didn't claim shite

you

09:55

claimed

09:55

dictator

09:55

like

09:55

10 minutes ago

09:55

and you said you were going to lynch me

Quote it

what

That was a joke

He did not explicitly say he was Dictator

Mel

Mayhaps

.

I read it as a joke

But I am again, not not claiming it. I am just not claiming my role.

But idk

The Game (Dan)

He did not explicitly say he was Dictator

Dan just confirmed nashed is Dictator

‍

Mel

If that's the miller/bp combo

it is

Bruh stop looking into it too far

Why would that confirm it?

Mel

Bruh stop looking into it too far

okokokoko

09:57

ill put TP on you regardless

‍♂️ alrighty

Softclaiming Dictator is not a reveal

I’m not saying Nashed is Dictator -.-

TP LO ESC SPY ON NASHED! JAILOR META

09:57

alright then

Eqsy i think it's just cuz fake claiming dicator was not allowed

09:58

Right?

oh yeah true

09:58

that could get one modkilled

Exactly

It's not allowed?

(I nearly did that earlier lmaooo)

09:58

during memephase

09:58

claimed dictator

09:58

then try to lynch when I found out what the role idd

EqsyLootz

as Mafia would want to get rid of Tpow asap

I am tpow

nashed, Lune, whoever claimed politician

09:59

funny how all tpow got revealed

09:59

lol

EqsyLootz

survives the first night they get attacked

the thing is. Dan reworked the unconcious mechanic. If the thug knocks someone out, or the drug dealer admisters a sleeping pill then the person loses immunity. (tp should still work i think) So Mike might die tonight.

10:00

if no TP is on them

10:00

I suggest TP being on mike

EqsyLootz

funny how all tpow got revealed

Yes i am definitely tpow

10:00

Solo Coven powerhouse carry

Is poli unique?

y

10:01

es

Yes

The rollable roles in each slot are displayed

The Game (Dan)

Who claimed?

Claimed. Not revealed.

Nobody claimed anything

10:02

Except Mike

I claim dictator

10:02

:dab:

What the hell is going on

Bruh

I cc nashed's dictator CC

Lune are you wanting a modkill?

Who CCd nothing

@The Game (Dan)

10:03

they didnt

So i ccd nothing

Do the reveal

I DID NOT EVER CLAIM AT ALL

they only claimed dictator

10:03

as im also dictator

The Game (Dan)

Lune are you wanting a modkill?

Revealing is not claiming

:D

- Faking a reveal as Dictator WILL result in a modkill :)

@The Game (Dan) MODKILL US ALL :D

Claiming is not /reveal

10:03

I can claim whatever the hecc i want

10:03

Thank you very much

-.-

This is annoying. i’m going for my bus

Goodbyer

:D

10:04

Mel

‍♂️ alrighty

I can read mental pain in this post.

10:04

I'm pro

Alright

10:04

so

The Game (Dan)

Exactly

This objectively should mean lune should be modkilled but the rules say that they shouldn't but bruh this game turned into a dumpster fire real quick

Mel

This objectively should mean lune should be modkilled but the rules say that they shouldn't but bruh this game turned into a dumpster fire real quick

How

Dictator - Nashed. Politician - Turtwig - Forensic lune?

10:05

do I have this right.

EFiesajhfojsa

Mel

This objectively should mean lune should be modkilled but the rules say that they shouldn't but bruh this game turned into a dumpster fire real quick

Lune is in it

Can we stop PR-hunting

Wtf did you expect

EqsyLootz

Dictator - Nashed. Politician - Turtwig - Forensic lune?

No

Mel

Can we stop PR-hunting

Waht

10:05

YOU CLAIMED

10:05

DICTATOR

I think neither me nor nashed are important roles

WDYM PR HUNTING

xD

oh my god

AHHHHHHHHH

@EqsyLootz you're silly

how

WTF IS PR HUNTING

power role hunt

I'm obviously not tpow

10:06

? ? ? ? ?

its when you grab a bow and arrow

I am going on the record to say, I never claimed anything and whatever you think I claimed I did not and do not claim it.

and you look for nice juicy power roles

Mel

I am going on the record to say, I never claimed anything and whatever you think I claimed I did not and do not claim it.

you soft claimed and got caught

10:06

lul

Please don’t push your luck on this matter I’m *this* close to going crazy

alr alr I removed ur scumread

Dan go away get your bus

Mel

I am going on the record to say, I never claimed anything and whatever you think I claimed I did not and do not claim it.

Just go with it and claim veteran

Dan will smithe us all

Nashed, Lune, Iron, Turtwig, Mario Town

Yay

Zenew scum

10:07

@Lunexia on Osu!

10:07

dont

I'm solo coven

Im solo Town

I am dying on the onside

Mike, best mini golfer

I am dying on the onside

nice i am dying on the upsides

I think I annoyed Nashed lol

Yes

I am dying on the allsides

You ruined him

Mel

I am dying on the allsides

Great

I JUST CALLED OUT HIS CLAI!M

Poor man

LIEK

Got memed on

dont soft clai

10:08

if you aren't ready

10:08

to face the consequences

Eqsy

10:08

You're

Lune

Something else

You're

This game

Something else

You're on crack

what

Alright, so if you catch a strong role soft-claiming, if you are Town what should you objectively do?

Ooooh boy

Mel

Alright, so if you catch a strong role soft-claiming, if you are Town what should you objectively do?

Get TP on them

Mel

Alright, so if you catch a strong role soft-claiming, if you are Town what should you objectively do?

KILL

Mel

Alright, so if you catch a strong role soft-claiming, if you are Town what should you objectively do?

not mention it if you pick it up

because if TP aren't aware of the Tpow claim

10:08

but mafia are

10:08

Rip the Tpow

Okay fair

That is three totally different fuckin' answers lmfaooo

Anyway if maf actually kills me

10:09

I laugh

Its obv kill

And if they kill nashed

10:09

i also laugh

if town lynches me

10:09

I laf

Nashed is the most obv citizen trying to be productive ive ever seen

STOP PR HUNTING LUNE

10:09

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

10:09

DONT CALL OUT IF SOMEONE IS CIT OR NOT

EqsyLootz

I laf

No u wont, since youre dead then

EqsyLootz

DONT CALL OUT IF SOMEONE IS CIT OR NOT

ok bye

what

Are you drunk Eqsy?

No..

10:11

Im 15

10:11

I don't drink

Eqsy drinking with 15 D:

.

It went downhill so fast

10:12

Eqsy i'm shocked

Im so confused

10:12

why do you guys think im drunk??

you're confused? ALrighty then

alright look, can we evaluate Zenew?

10:12

I'd prefer if I'm not the lynch today

10:12

due to obvious reasons

You're memeing at 5 votes

10:12

D:

4* votes

Fair

how am I memeing though

woah what happened (edited)

Basically

10:13

I called out nashed on a soft claim

10:13

they said its not true

10:13

Chaos unfolded

10:13

and here we are

I said it wasn't a claim

I think there was no soft claim

10:13

In the first place

h

10:13

doubts

10:13

if Nashed is actually dictator

10:13

im going to laugh so hard

Eqsy me and nashed are maf

though

smh

SAME

10:14

NICE

If I am you're gonna get me killed

:D

Dayum

Eqsy scum-claimed

Anyways serious topic, Luneh what are your current thoughts on Zenew?

10:14

Did their suggestion on Algebra seem like an opportunistic vote?

10:14

in your opinion

i think wanting algebra out after what algebra said so far

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/852543436329320459

Is a fair opinion to have

WAIT

10:15

DID ZEN JUST SLIP?

I see the matter quite similar

"Provide anything useful as town probably"

10:15

What did they mean as town though?

10:15

poor choice of wording

10:15

or slip

?

why are they calling algebra town

10:15

they could've just left it at providing anything useful.

It's an "if they're actually town they're going to hinder us"

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

10:16

I don't trust Zenew at all

10:16

I'm sorry,

and that's pretty obvious

but I just don't

It does sound awkward but I do not think it's a slip.

alr

You had one good argument, that i agreed with, and everything else just seems pulled out of thin air

no

10:16

its pulled out of an ISO

D:

they have 287 posts worth of messages to look over

10:17

and I've seen more posts i've disliked compared to likabel posts

10:17

therefore I think they're an overall safe lynch.

10:17

eqsy needs to go baibai

pardon me?

@EqsyLootz drop dead serious. Make a read tier-list

hmmmmmm

10:19

+ [1] Lune (Townlean) + [2] Shroud -> Mario (Townlean) + [3] Turtwig (Townread) + [4] Ironfire (Townlean) + [5] Super21 (Null) + [6] Zach (Null) + [7] Quack (Null Town) + [8] Algebra (Null) + [9] Kokichi (Null) + [10] Nashed (Null Town) + [11] Zen (Scumread) + [12] Bean (Null) + [13] Meowy (Null) + [14] Eqsy (Town) + [15] Bea (Null)

10:19

Basically

10:19

everyone who is null

10:19

I barely looked over their posts.

Zen's your only scum-read?

Yes.

You did not think algebra's opportunistic push is nai?

How can I possibly establish any other reads if no one besides the people I put as Townlean are posting

10:20

I don't know how to read Algebra

10:20

I can't tell their strategy

10:21

Ig it's more of a TWTBAW

10:21

claim

10:21

scum would be more aware of what they were saying

10:21

but I kept them as null regardless.

That's assuming they're good enough of a scum to realise what they're saying at any given time.

They clearly have 3 other teammates

10:21

coaching them on what to do

10:21

unless those 3 teammates are prodging lol

You say everyone that's null isn't posting enough to make a read, you null-tr and above everyone else except Zen and say unless they're prodging the scum is aiding them. Mind elaborating on this contradiction? OR do you not believe it is one, if so clarify?

I don't follow

10:24

you think I know who the scumteam is?

10:24

evidentally one of my townreads could be scum

10:24

I'm not saying such

10:24

I just don't follow at all

hmm

10:27

This is interesting

10:27

In my opinion this is TvS

10:27

i jsut can't make out which one is the scum

I am saying your read on algebra is contradicting your reads, at least to me. TLDR; You are reading algebra as NAI because of the unknown activity levels in the scum PT. Side note, scum PT always seems to be lackluster, simply check the last game hosted. Shit was almost a desert

pt is team chat?

oh yeah sorry

10:29

Used to it being an actual thread

10:29

private thread

o

Not if Lune is in the mafia chat

But then you're assuming your town-reads are wrong

Could be, but i promise you i'm not :)

Which contradicts what you are actually telling us what your reads are

Side note, scum PT always seems to be lackluster, simply check the last game hosted. Shit was almost a desert

The all any (first game season 2) scum chat had more posts than day chat

10:30

//equal

10:30

I had 3k+ posts in scum chat

10:30

lol

Yeah but who exactly in this player chat would be a strong pt poster

10:30

Probably just us both

Nashed's thought process confuses me

Maybe I am not explaining it well enough

10:30

It is 12:30

10:31

@Lunexia on Osu! are you understanding me?

I don't really

Dang

I made this in the scum chat lol

10:31

I was so bored

10:31

Fun game

Lunexia on Osu!

I don't really

Hence why i unvoted

10:32

At this point you seem like really wanting this lynch and tunelling really hard

I am just saying, if you are at least semi-confident in your reads. You wouldn't be as afraid to make reads that would go in accordance with them, which it seems they're not wanting to.

can we vote Zenew

I am known for death tunneling on MS

better bote than algebra

10:32

and if im wrong

10:32

yall can lynch me

10:32

deal?

Case Zen

Lots of msgs

- Claism they didn't look at rolelist, claims they didn trealize a framer was in the game. Common newcomer!scum distance themselves from the mafia team by trying to derp - Opportunism when they asked why i wasn't defending myself - Possible slip on Algebra

Wut

wtf is happening

Idk

10:35

What happened with algebra

Mel

I am saying your read on algebra is contradicting your reads, at least to me. TLDR; You are reading algebra as NAI because of the unknown activity levels in the scum PT. Side note, scum PT always seems to be lackluster, simply check the last game hosted. Shit was almost a desert

tf is a NAI

1. I do not believe this comes from scum more than town. 2. Why is this opportunism scummy where algebra's wasn't. 3. I don't know what you're referring to. @EqsyLootz

MAN

10:35

.

Algebra

tf is a NAI

NAI means not alignment indicative. Which means it isn't scummy nor townie. AI means that it leans towards one alignment. For example townie or scummy.

so uh apparently im getting voted huh

10:36

eh thats cool

Idk eqsy wants to vote me and people are also voting eqsy

i just wanna let younguys take note that my playstyle is considered borderline throwing and stuff

And this a mess

so uh

10:36

me claiming sk is kinda well, normal

10:36

yeah this sounds pretty sus

10:37

mhmm

You sound like someone i used to know

10:37

Lol (edited)

what that

Shit

Don't edit

oh

Mel

1. I do not believe this comes from scum more than town. 2. Why is this opportunism scummy where algebra's wasn't. 3. I don't know what you're referring to. @EqsyLootz

1. how 2. Because it is 3. we talked about this 10 minutes ago

I edit

10:37

Sorri

I am not taking "because it is" as an answer.

10:37

Also for 1. I just do not believe it comes from scum more than it would from Town.

wait ok so to make this clear

10:38

you think im sus because i liek

10:38

voted a guy right?

10:38

that it?

If you think scum would be guiding algebra, why would they not be guiding Zen.

Also please like I don't even know what the 3rd point against me is

I don't know either

@Algebra Vote Zenew

<~<

No, respond to my post

Mel

If you think scum would be guiding algebra, why would they not be guiding Zen.

Zenew isn't TWTBAW

10:39

they're just wolfy.

why

What's twtbaw

why would i do that

Too wolfy to be a wolf. Or sometime said. Too scummy to be a scum.

Algebra

i just wanna let younguys take note that my playstyle is considered borderline throwing and stuff

Change your playstyle then

It's where someone gets so impossibly scummy, that it cannot possibly be one as scum wants to be townie. It's something that cannot be followed 100% of the time but can be used.

lol

Lunexia on Osu!

Change your playstyle then

uhm ok

Huh

its used when naturally scum are more aware of what they are saying

Like Jester?

@EqsyLootz respond to the difference between Zen/Algebra and their team helping one but not helping the one you're pushing.

Mel

@EqsyLootz respond to the difference between Zen/Algebra and their team helping one but not helping the one you're pushing.

Algebra TWTBAW Zenew Wolf

uh im not being guided or anything

10:40

whatever that means

If you can use that logic to not push one, why does it not apply to the other. -- What does tstbs have to do with that

what makes you think i am?

Mel

If you can use that logic to not push one, why does it not apply to the other. -- What does tstbs have to do with that

Algebra isn't aware of what they are sayign when it came to their opportunism on me

10:41

Zenew on the other hand is fully aware of what the yhare saying

10:41

they just don't realize their mistakes.

Wut

How do you know that

10:42

Quote where you think they're aware

Because Zenew and I are scum together smh.

ANd where they're not.

No of course not

10:42

its called a read

why do people speak big words here

10:42

what does opportunism mean?

You're literally pulling arguments out of your ass

(that's basic englishj not even a mafia term)

I think like taking aa chance?

Algebra

voted a guy right?

1. Claiming Sk. 2. Still claiming SK. 3. "I am going to vote only to be the hammering vote because funni" what else uhh..

Zen is town and ALgebra is mafia if Eqsy is mafia

Anyway

Lunexia on Osu!

1. Claiming Sk. 2. Still claiming SK. 3. "I am going to vote only to be the hammering vote because funni" what else uhh..

uh

Nashed

10:42

god

remember i said this

it must've been a while since you played mafia

10:42

considering how bad your reads are

10:43

(Or maybe my reads are bad who knows)

i said

Are you insulting my skill?

mislynch > no lynch

perhaos

that is kinda what im going for

10:43

so um

10:43

yea?

That's actually a low blow

Nashed we'll see who's right

10:43

after zen's lynch

10:43

k?

im not trying to be the hammering vote

10:43

i just want a lynch

I'm not going for a zen elim

yeah

if I'm wrong lynch me and you can say I told you so

10:43

if you're right

10:43

sorry

10:43

if youu're wrong

@EqsyLootz going to answer the question?

you will say Sorry

10:44

ok?

10:44

WHAT QUESTION

Oh you did mb

10:44

I am tired

damn

But I am fairly confident in my read. Eqsy being scum, they're trying to push their agenda, which ended up contradicting their previous read so they chalk it up to "reads"

10:45

And then they go an attack my intelligence since they cannot defend against it

hm

ok if you guys really do want to vote me you can, if it means that you can narrow down the sus people and hopefulyl confirm some others

if eqsy flips town

hm

You'd be in a pretty bad situation

Who

You

Why would I be

10:46

What makes what I am doing AI

10:46

And what I am doing AI that changes depending on Eqsy's flip

10:46

Nothing

@Lunexia on Osu! They won't be in a mad situation

10:46

no,

10:46

but zenew will be

10:46

bad*

hmm

situation

I will be in a mad one >:C

10:47

v mad

10:47

or sad

10:47

:C

Serious topic though

10:47

I'm scared as hell right now

10:47

due to Zenew

10:47

if I'm wrong I'm going to be so embarassed

Scared?

smg

10:47

Yes

oh

Because if Zenew flips green

lol

i'm screwed.

So you're worried about the backlash so you protect yourself prior?

3 hours

Cannot help but that come into my head aha

10:48

Zen isn't the flip today

10:48

Stop pushing it

Hmm i guess lynching eqsy now is fine

Also you jumped to a completely "serious" topic, which is a feign to stop the conversation in which you're taking heat to switch it to sending heat to Zen

Mel

Zen isn't the flip today

well if not Zen

10:49

find it alternative

10:49

who isnt Algebra

Alright... hmmm

10:49

You

who isn't me

Hmmm.. no

10:49

AHa

I'm so nervous

10:49

ASCK

10:49

I literally

What do you guys think of super/zach/bea

and destroying Zenew

10:49

Right now

10:49

And I'm getting backlash

10:49

and if I'm wrong

10:50

im going to get even more backlash ;-;

Neither of the three have posted much that I've read.

10:50

Majority of the playerbase is low-posting

Duh

damn.

Maybe the three postketeers is making it hard to join back in

mhm

EqsyLootz

I'm so nervous

Feelin' the heat?

NFS Heat

nfs?

Mel

Majority of the playerbase is low-posting

well time to mass ping-

Nashed

10:51

im not feeling any heat

@Alive Line SP unofficial player prod

im just nervous

10:51

over Zenew

Why would you be

IF THEY FLIP GREEN

10:52

IM SCREWED

Eqsy why are you screwed then

Why are you so worried about self-preservation

because

10:52

ill get lynched

10:52

and ill have a bad reputation

Mel

@Alive Line SP unofficial player prod

wait you actyually did that

of having trash reads

lmao

ok

Algebra

wait you actyually did that

AHaha jealous?

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

EqsyLootz

of having trash reads

Trash reads are always going to happen eventually

a fuck

Still

i’ve been really busy h

wrong does not mean trash btw

@Super21 who would you vote here?

SUPER IS ZENEW YOUR SCUM TEAMMATE?

10:53

IM DETECTIVE AND YOu"RE BOTH THE SAME ALIGNMENT

10:53

OR ARE YOU TOWN

10:53

quick

lol eqsy

waht

stop

we need to solve Zenew

10:53

zenew

10:53

last night

10:53

i checked you and Zenew

10:53

you came up as the same alignment

it’s still D1 right?

10:53

h

No

10:53

D2

10:53

we no lynched D1

cringe

Lunexia on Osu!

@Super21 who would you vote here?

i’m really not sure at all

10:53

h

I physically felt that one

i’ve said this but

10:54

i don’t know what to do

Could you read a little and make yourself a bit of an opinion?

D1

10:54

bc

10:54

no info

There's so much info

but

10:54

nothing concrete

Enough to get some vague ideas

and that’s how my brain works

That's the fun of the game

a

Mel

That's the fun of the game

yeah

Make educated guesses D1, get information slowly over time.

well i suck at reading people so

Chances are there won't be concrete evidence until the very end

Super21

well i suck at reading people so

Do it anyway

10:55

It helps

10:55

Us

It does not matter if you suck, you will never get better and never have fun if you don't try

You only ahve to share your opinion

10:55

Others do the rest

super

10:55

vote Zenew

bruh

10:55

Can we yeet that already

i’m not voting anyone without a good reason

10:55

do you have one

no

10:56

im not getting yeeted today

lol

yes super i have good reasoning

10:56

- Derp Deny - Fence Sit - Scumslip

I've made my case pretty clear on them, or at least I feel like I have. I recommend giving the game a quick read to make a case for yourself.

idk what anything means help

it means they're scum

You can always ask

well ik what fence sitting is

Derp deny means a neww scum pretends they don't know the rolelsit

A derp clear is where somebody says something dumb that scum would not say (thus derp) and a derp deny is where someone calls bullshit.

for example they say there's 3 mafia when in reality there's 4

10:57

and then they say OH I DIDNT KNOW

10:57

trying to gain town cred

10:57

although it doesn't work

It also could be real

Zenew said they didn't know a framer was in the gamre

10:58

It's rarely real

10:58

Rarely

ah

Especially in this situation

It also doesn't mean it comes from scum

consider this

10:58

why would a town member

10:58

who didnt know hte rolelist

10:58

Say "FRAMER"

10:58

why would they say framer

10:58

specifically

10:58

sure I said I found themn suspicious

10:58

but it was 30 minutes into the game

You are ignoring the context

any town would call BS would they not

I believe you called a red-check on them, which they then said framer as continuing the joke.

it wasn't a joke

10:59

they were serious

Quote it

they said do you want me to claim orr?

10:59

check me again

10:59

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/851877366451273740 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/851877399201447968 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/851877618537725964

Even if they are serious, if a town gets red-checked why would they not assume framer may be a thing.

11:01

Got nothing?

I know i'm right.

Yeah alright I'll consider this a win

Listen though

11:01

Whatever you guys do

11:01

DONT

11:01

HAMMER

11:01

ME

11:01

I may have a claim

@Lunexia on Osu!good enough to convince you

@EqsyLootz i won't let anyone hammer anyone.

dictator:

lul

11:02

If the dictator decides to hammer any of this shit

11:02

Imma scream

Mel

dictator:

DONT

Lunexia on Osu!

If the dictator decides to hammer any of this shit

Any of what?

11:03

huh?

Can't we just vote algebra instead of killing off someone who might be helping?

If dictator hammers me

Any player accused rn

its a wastei

This day

im already top vote

Zen

Can't we just vote algebra instead of killing off someone who might be helping?

I am

Eqsy is scum planning on fake-claiming PR

11:03

Calling this now

Zen

Can't we just vote algebra instead of killing off someone who might be helping?

yeah fine, you can do that

I do not believe anyone but eqsy is going to be wagoned so I am fine with a claim now

11:04

@Lunexia on Osu! thoughts?

on what

11:04

why are you constantly pinging me haha

Because you're the only one I trust that's active

heh

sure

11:05

@Zen claim

fiuhaojdwa

I'm Doctor.

Yeah sure thing doc

fine fine im joking

11:05

im bodyguard

11:05

frf

11:05

ill be on you Nashed

11:05

(you see, the joke is, Bodyguard isn't even a rollable role)

I was actually going to unvote you, jesus christ are you trying to be read as tstbs as a defence?

nah

11:07

I'm just trolling

11:07

anyways

11:07

it's your choice.

@Lunexia on Osu! 'notha ping

Imma go have lucnh

11:07

so brb

Thoughts on getting a claim

11:07

audible sigh

If eqsy is PR that's not TP he should claim. If eqsy is TP or citizen he shouldn't

11:07

That's my take

If they're going to be the elim

11:08

We need a full-claim

If he's going to claim a Pr that's not TP

11:08

Then all is good

I also do not trust the town near end-game, content-wise

11:08

@EqsyLootz claim

Yeah town is gonna have a rough time

Oh wait, they're yeeting out because they don't wanna claim

Once eqsy you and i are dead

11:08

And we are killing eqsy already

I just gotta not die

11:09

And carry like last game

i'm not convinced you're town

11:09

You play like the pyro upick

I don't need you to be

heh

I will still carry

Mel

@EqsyLootz claim

Motion Detector

That's not even a role

Your point is?

Why are you playing anti-town

because you're too stubborn to listen,

11:11

11:11 Make a wish!

11:11

:D

should i actually claim?

i wish Zen gets lyncged today

11:11

yes

11:11

Zen

You literally gave up on defending yourself

<.<

because I don't need to

It's 1:11 here aha

Zen

should i actually claim?

Are you being pushed?

YES

11:11

they're gettign pushed by me

11:11

sso Zenew

11:11

claim

No don't yet

can someone other than the person who wants me dead answer

11:12

oki

11:12

thanks

well

11:12

Zenew

11:12

claim

11:12

now

11:12

Waitwaitwait

no

If zenew claims

11:12

ill claim

11:12

deal^

<.<

no deal

that's a shame

11:12

guess I aint claiming

11:12

I made a promise

So if you're Town, you want scum to get double the information if you are wrong on Zen

I wouldnt claim Day 1

why would you wanna out two potential power roles instead of 1

@EqsyLootz How bout this If you are non-TP PR claim your role. If you are cit or TP claim cit

I am Citizen

11:13

:)

Fair

11:13

Sad

11:13

Eqsy hangs i guess

no

11:13

Why

11:13

Zenew

11:13

is literally

Zen

why would you wanna out two potential power roles instead of 1

that implies eqsy would be a power role

open wolfing

11:13

So zenew just softed PR

11:13

though

11:13

Zenew

11:13

which

11:13

PR

11:13

are you

How about this, you die today. We consider Zen tomorrow

you already softed.

11:14

No

Zenew said "potential"

Zenew dies today

11:14

I die tomorrow

What is the difference

the difference is

11:14

when Zenew flips

11:14

ill be conf town

Wrong

11:14

SK/Mafia are different alignments

oh

11:14

fair point

11:14

well

11:14

ill be confirmed not to be the same alignment

11:14

errr

11:14

or same alignment

11:14

if they do flip green :l

You will not be confirmed same alignment if they flip town

11:15

Nice try tho

get me to L-1 the

11:16

ill hammer

I think eqsy said "i will be confirmed not same alignment if they flip mafia, and i will also be confirmed not same alignment if town "

then yall

11:16

get zeneew

11:16

deal^

Lunexia on Osu!

I think eqsy said "i will be confirmed not same alignment if they flip mafia, and i will also be confirmed not same alignment if town "

Where did they say that?

i don't think that will happen

11:17

EqsyLootz, the Solo Town — Today at 17:14 oh fair point well ill be confirmed not to be the same alignment errr or same alignment if they do flip green :l

Slipped?

no

?

fine fine

11:17

lets lynch Algebra

11:17

since yall are so confident

11:17

hmm^

Bruh

@me @Reb you are also voting eqsy.

11:18

Could you read up and decide if you want to stay on that wagon?

Zach

11:20

is voting me

11:20

are you serious

11:23

votes are tied.

• Ties resolved by first to reach vote count

Just a reminder :)

DAN HATES ME

11:27

WTH

anyway im getting lynched and stuff

11:27

so uh

11:28

i am actually town

11:28

yep

11:28

im citizen

11:28

yep

It was like that since I opened signups lol
Read the info :)

so uh maybe dont lynch me?

11:28

yep

Yep

11:28

You die

11:28

although i probably wont contribute much even if i live

11:28

yep

11:28

~~time to call server racist~~

hmm

what.

11:40

so I gotta work till 1:40

11:40

don't hammer me

11:40

ill do occasional check ins

11:40

we'll discuss this more later.

@The Game (Dan) when does day en

11:45

end

1 hour and 35 minutes

i don't think i'll be here for day end cuz of driving lessons

11:48

voting algebra for the points i mentioned before

11:49

i might come back in like the last few mins if today's session is short

@Zen then claim now

11:49

so we avoid CFDing youi

11:50

if you're important like dictator and need TP, they will be on you

11:50

but we can't risk mislynching important roles

11:50

if you are Citizen don't worry about it or wtv

11:50

you're fine

11:50

chances are you won't be cfd'd in general

11:50

but Just in case.

Hmm

11:54

This suddenly feels like getting maximum information for the mafia before you die

Don't be ridiculous

11:57

if Zen wants to 100% live they need to claim

?

11:57

At this point it's algebra or you

they could be CFD

11:57

They could be CFDF

11:57

its just in case

And it is now established that you and algebra are not scum together

why

Since you voted each other

11:58

It's very unlikely that you are

I unvoted

So if you flip maf we know algebra isn't

Well I aint getting flipped today

EqsyLootz

I unvoted

But you considered it for life preservation+#

@Zen I seriously need that claim

EqsyLootz

Well I aint getting flipped today

You sound so sure

11:59

Zen is innocent

11:59

I think Super is mafia

11:59

Also Mario

12:00

I think algebra is actually SK

I'm back

12:00

Can't sleep

Sadge

Lunexia on Osu!

You sound so sure

I know when its my time to die

12:01

and its not my time to die

Lunexia on Osu!

I think algebra is actually SK

neutral-hunting is bad

I still have so much more left in me

Mel

neutral-hunting is bad

Why

12:01

It's just my opinion

Oh.. my.. god.. eqsy chose that they didn't want to die so we cannot elim them now!

exactly.

Lunexia on Osu!

It's just my opinion

Bad as in, there is no point in doing so

12:01

At least in early game

I mean if i'm right we have unlimited time

12:02

xD

12:02

4v10

12:02

Well alright

Please

12:03

I don't want to die

12:03

I always get mislynched

12:03

Appeal to my Emotion ;-;

anyway zenew and eqsy are either mafia together or zenew is town

12:04

That's what i concluded

LOL

From the way zenew is acting

They're trying to make sure I stop scumreading them

12:04

by pocketing me

If zenew was mafia i'm pretty sure her vote would be on eqsy rn

12:04

And eqsy town

mp

and not the counterwagon

No*

12:04

Lune

12:04

because if I get lynched

12:04

my legacy read is zenew

12:05

so if they defend me but I still get lynched

if you get lynched nothing would happen

I might trust them

12:05

If I get lynched

You underestimate

Zenew

12:05

Dies

overestimate*

12:05

The peoples ability

12:05

to remember wtf happened yesterday

Well

12:05

Im sure you will remember

No

12:05

I'm literally hamsterbrained

https://tenor.com/view/hoss-delgado-mind-the-grim-adventures-of-billy-and-mandy-gif-11161361

Lunexia on Osu!

If zenew was mafia i'm pretty sure her vote would be on eqsy rn

Exactly my thoughts

Lunexia on Osu!

I think algebra is actually SK

mhmhmhmhmm

Mel

Exactly my thoughts

me getting lynched

though i dont think maf would vote me out so early if they could choose

will give Zen

12:09

a bad situation

more kill power is good

im getting lynched anyways

12:09

why jump on a green wagon

12:09

when both me and algebra

12:10

wh oare top wagons will rpobably be lynched

Algebra

though i dont think maf would vote me out so early if they could choose

THAT IS

12:11

ADMITTING

12:11

TO BEING SK

12:11

gfzutwhbfgijnkmolaregianiopughjn

12:11

rwgzhuwraeijgknmthuijoltnömksälrdh-onm iköl-

12:11

@Mel

12:11

DO YOU SEE THIS

Mel

@Alive Line SP unofficial player prod

uno reverse

If algebra is town he's gamethrowing

12:12

seriously

12:12

gamethrowing

Bean

uno reverse

You wanna see who to vote in all this?

12:14

@Bean Pong above text

ok

12:14

who to vote

I got thonged

12:17

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-scoot-sandal-shoe-gif-5065058

@Algebra Note: Claiming Serial Killer regardless of alignment could be considered gamethrowing

Lunexia on Osu!

DO YOU SEE THIS

I do

especially this late into the game

12:18

soooooooooooo

12:19

I suggest you actually change the playstyle here

Algebra

i just wanna let younguys take note that my playstyle is considered borderline throwing and stuff

this is town

@Algebra are you actually claiming SK

He's been claiming sk 3 times

12:19

Claiming to kill ironfire 2 times+

Not confident that it's legit

Idk

12:20

If its not that's already close to straight up GT

12:20

dont like it

Even so, Mafia > SK this early. as SK can kill mafia, mafia can't kill SK

Mario MVP

this is town

Ofc you say that

ANd we can always elim them tomorrow

hmm

12:20

But we don't know if eqsy is mafia

We also don't know if Algebra is SK

@The Game (Dan) Does sheriff find SK?

Complete invest immunity

12:21

That was the thing said in signups

12:22

https://discordapp.com/channels/648663810772697089/846442349830602783/851186751326257183

yall

12:23

memephase

12:23

is forever .-.

12:24

also kek citizen claim

@Reb you can't just unvote

12:25

and not

altho hopping on eqsy wagon is sus

join discussion

Mel

That was the thing said in signups

true

also

12:41

@Mel ping for pinging me smh

Lunexia on Osu!

@The Game (Dan) Does sheriff find SK?

No

Apparently I may be having to do champs, a game on MS and this one. Ima be a busy lad

12:45

@The Game (Dan) please use a different colour

@The Game (Dan) what color is that

It's impossible to read

Can you not just highlight it with left click

It's brainfuck

Dan why

12:46

40 MINUTES TILL EOD

12:46

wait

12:46

no

12:46

100 MINUTES TILL EOD

12:46

I was an hour off

40 minutes

WIAT WHAT

12:46

40???? 4

12:47

i thought

12:47

EoD

12:47

was 2:20

12:47

EST

5:20PM UTC

not 1:20

12:47

UGH

12:47

@Alive Line SP EOD IS SOON!

I don't want to highlight everything you say dude

ACTIVITY PING

I do not believe SK would claim SK here

Can we please

12:47

Just Decide

Ok fine I'll use this instead

whether to lynch Algebra

Thanks

or Zenew?

We lynch you

no

12:48

there's alternatives

Btw if you are wondering "bee." is kokichi

Lune

12:49

please

12:49

vote Algebra

12:49

Trust me.

I AM

You may think im scum

12:49

but

12:49

oh

? ? ? ? ??

@Zen GIVE ME

12:49

YOUR GODDAMN CLAIM

Algebra is not the elim, they wouldn't claim SK here as scum. Zen is not the wagon either I am town-reading them. You are trying every last effort to survive here

12:50

Just seriously, give up

If algebra isn't sk they're GTing

12:50

:c

what

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

I'm willing to bet on them gamethrowing than them being SK

they're GTing either way

GUn to head

what

Ironfire

12:50

Who do i hang

12:50

Help

didn't they claim cit

12:50

then like

Gamethrowing townie

12:50

Or nasheds read

12:51

?

"afaq whatev town is being too hard to play"

VOTE ZENEW THEN

zen is literally town

12:51

wym

we Vote Zenew

12:51

No

12:51

they aren't

ur maf

if they are

12:51

I will take TOTAL blame

yea

12:51

rn

12:51

/vote eqsy

Eqsy literally flailing like a lad right now

Nashed

UGHHH I cant believe im going to do this

I just can't

bai bais

im going to claim

Bring myself

alr

To follow you

then when I claim yall unvote

reveals as mayor

k

If i ever TR nashed

12:51

I already lost

What's the point of saying this Lune

I am the Dictator, I told Zenew to claim because I was planning to force a hammer onto them should I be close to lynching.

Ah I see, so you're constantly going to have a paranoia read

always follow the potato

12:52

what

EqsyLootz

I am the Dictator, I told Zenew to claim because I was planning to force a hammer onto them should I be close to lynching.

faiir

Fine. Hammer algebra or Zen here

sus

@Alive Line SP TP ON EQSY

Thats why I was So nervous

12:52

Because

They're immune tonight

if I hammered Zen

12:52

and was wrong

No

that'd be bad lmaooo

Eqsy is only immune

kek

if he uises ability

If they do not hammer here, I want them dead

^

I do not trust them for a second

He didn't use the ability to hammer

12:53

So eqsy is NOT immune

do yall want to wait 15 mins

12:53

to discuss?

12:53

orrrr

@Mel so much for your read

What do you mean

Also thats why I was trolling a lil b it

12:53

because it was to see

12:53

who would easily jump on my wagon

wait

12:53

wdym

and how others would react

Well

12:53

zach

12:53

Did

Wrong does not equal bad. My read was solid, I still stand by everything I said

wait so eqsy is confirmable role

12:53

d1

12:53

that's

@Mel Dw

kinda a high iq play ngl

I purposefully acted scummy

12:53

to see how some people would react.

Bruh

ok quick hammer eqsy before he reveals

And what did you get from things

considering I could just revea

12:54

lol

12:54

Well, I got my Zenew case

ZENEW IS TOWN

12:54

Q§ETGFVZWHEBRULFGÖW

how

^

12:54

they're new

12:54

their actions are typical new player

Also

@Zen come hereeeeeeee

thinkathonc

I cannot believe the one person with the worst read is also the one that can hammer instantly whenever

@Mel mafia can jsut send thug+the factional killer on eqsy

12:54

and eqsy dies

12:54

through immunity

We have two confirmed players

12:55

Both of which that can happen

12:55

@The Game (Dan) is dictator immune from thug etc

Mel

I cannot believe the one person with the worst read is also the one that can hammer instantly whenever

how funny would it be if Zenew is scum

On the reveal

No

: )

12:55

I told u the rework was bs

12:55

ruins the purpose of the roles

12:55

dictator+poli

12:55

xd

EqsyLootz

how funny would it be if Zenew is scum

Then I would accept I was wrong, simple as that

anyway

Thug needs to die dudes

12:56

so

Do we just

12:56

Hammer zenew

12:56

or algebra

uh

TP on someone that isn't the pair, TP on the survivor tomorrow.

Mel

TP on someone that isn't the pair, TP on the survivor tomorrow.

fair

12:56

But like

12:56

TP still on the pair

UGH

12:56

LIKE

For good measure

WHAT IF I LYNCH

12:56

FORENSIC

12:56

DAMN IT ZENEW

did zen claim

Nah you wont

12:57

I believe eqsy

12:57

You wouldnt

If the scum wants to waste the roleblock and a kill, we get a certain invest check tonight.

Just hammer a power role

~~and also cuz im forensic~~

12:57

/j

12:57

btw

12:57

anwyay

me

~~and also cuz im forensic~~

nice

me

/j

fu

That and one of the pair is going to be left unprotected anyway

a

L

big L

I think we'll be fineee

12:57

But Idk

ol

12:57

anyway

my heart is racing ;-;

12:57

Why give this role to me

did

Don't hammer Zen here

zen claim

12:57

tho

12:57

but did

12:57

zen claim

Im waiting nashed

Don't use ur ability

^

till like like 3 minutes

12:57

to see if Zen comes on

jus tlike

12:58

tp on you

12:58

and vibe

12:58

then hammer fr

actually

cuz instakill sounds fun

If we decide on a hammer

and not smth that should be wasted

we can have eqsy use ability

wha

Since eqsy is most likely to die

oh shit what

Bruh

in mike/eqsy

thonc

12:58

hi super

12:58

ur maf

what

Super21

oh shit what

You're scum

jk ur not

12:58

uh

what did i do

I Scum read you

12:58

So hard

12:58

But it's all gut feeling

12:58

It's so sad

12:59

Please talk more

i’m talking now

12:59

but

12:59

h

12:59

i’m very busy

12:59

with school

12:59

h

I see

back

12:59

lemme read up

@Lunexia on Osu! who do we want dead.

Idk

13:00

I mean algebra is GTing

13:00

And i also think super is scummy

13:00

And i also think zach is

13:00

But honestly we could also lynch nashed

13:00

I'd prefer Algebra over Zach simply because we have more information one way over the other.

hehe

Ah yes, kill meh

i can avoid our knife duel if we lynch algebra

Super?

13:01

also what's super do

@Zen Claim.

@Zen Clam.

Why do i get so many pings from here

Zach

13:01

Why did you unvote

13:01

without saying anything

Reb

Why do i get so many pings from here

Yes

Cuz I thought i was told to unvote?

@Reb nobody pinged you

No

13:02

I asked you

Lunexia on Osu!

Yes

Cease.

Why you are voting

13:02

And if you are still thinking the wagon is your correct choice

13:02

Honestly i knew eqsy was dictator

Idk i heard from earlier before I unvoted that i should vote eqsy

Lunexia on Osu!

Honestly i knew eqsy was dictator

YEAH RIGHT

xd

And then I thought I was told to unvote

Or something important

13:02

Anyway

Why did you push that me claiming dictator shit so hard

Because he is dictator?

13:03

And wanted you to say "yes im dictator"

13:03

so he can just hammer scum

13:03

?

Why would scum claim dictator

Yes

13:03

Why would scum claim SK

13:03

why would town claim SK

Mel

Why did you push that me claiming dictator shit so hard

because if Zenew were to be lynched I didnt want to be suspected of being the dictator

13:04

lol

13:04

like if I didnt use my ability

13:04

and survived the day

Tbh

13:04

Eqsy

13:04

This couldve been avoided

13:04

Had you not played like a drunkard on crack

You acted so incredibly scummy dude...

thats true

13:04

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

okay

13:04

i have read stuff

I have like 5 different ideas

13:04

and none of them worked

Zenew

13:04

Hi

and eqsy is the insta kill? so then i just claim yes

Please dont claim tp if you are tp

13:04

just claim citizen

watch Zenew claim forensic

i am citz

EqsyLootz

watch Zenew claim forensic

that'd be funny

great

Zen

i am citz

Pog

Citzzz

now

Zen remember no lying

Tbh i thought zen is TI

uh

well

13:05

they aren.t a PR

13:05

so even if we ML it might be ok???

13:05

Idk

13:05

:(

True

wouldn't scum claim PR

wha's ML

newcomer scum?

13:05

Mislynch

ic

Like idk now im getting cold feet

EqsyLootz

wouldn't scum claim PR

As scum i tend to claim citizen

cause new scum

13:05

would claim PR

in a cit setup

to avoid lynch

13:06

I just realized

13:06

how little claim space

13:06

scum has

i have 400 pings oof

A new scum would claim the easiest role to fake

13:06

Which is always citizen#

13:06

Since you cant do shit

Incorrect

i claim cit

Right`?

<.<

Depends on where the player comes from

Heh

ToS players may likely claim a weaker PR

True

13:07

They dont know cits

13:07

But for me it'd be the easiest to fake claim

13:07

Considering it's d1

ew

i claim weak pr

discussing new player meta sounds int

also people should unvote eqsy

Now

cuz no cc

honestly here's what I established.

player is player and has playstyle

right?

Do we have eqsy use ability?

no

13:07

we hammer eqsy

Since eqsy will die over mike

what

Definitely

I established that scum has no claim space

13:07

so technically

Since eqsy way stronger role

kek

13:07

massclaim?

13:07

rn?

if we have Forensic, Politician, Dictator and the 3 PRS

13:08

claim

massclaim

13:08

rn

13:08

rn

13:08

rn

13:08

rn

no

les do it

we just narrow down the 5 remaining scum in the 4 cit pool

13:08

lol

massclaim is for potatoes

Oooor

we have like 12mins left

The scum CCs

les do it

unless 1 player claims PR

All PRs

13:08

XD

na

13:08

no one is that int

guys there's random town

@Zen what are your legacy readsÉ

13:08

ik

what's a legacy rea

Anyway if we have a roleblocked claim or a transed claim we know what RT is

read

it means

13:09

the read you want us to remember

13:09

should you die

13:09

like a scumread

13:09

for example if I were to die right now

seems like a warning

13:09

lmao

I would say ''Lune is Town kill Zenew',

it is

kinda thing

EqsyLootz

I would say ''Lune is Town kill Zenew',

What if i'm scum

then lol

but uh honestly

13:09

bae for some reason

13:09

just seems like mafia to me

The thing with bae is

13:09

They claimed

they haven't talked alot

"Town Citizen"

THEY DID%

any maf wanna reveal for fun

Not citizen#

na

13:10

they're town cit

13:10

they claimed

13:10

so

13:10

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As if they claimed off of their rolecard

ah

what

Instead of saying "citizen"

13:10

Is that angleshooting?

13:10

xD

yes

13:10

that's angleshooting

13:10

definitely angleshooting

no lol

100% complete angleshooting

13:11

bannable

13:11

anyway

Shut

13:11

>:D

welp okay then maybe that read wrong then

13:11

go ahead and shoot me then eqsy

wait

13:11

i mean

13:11

that sounds like inting

13:12

hm

13:12

cuz tp can go on eqsy for freelo

i mean they just basically told me to say my last words

Can we just shoot zach/suprt

it feels like

And be happy

13:12

We killed

13:12

scum

13:12

?

zach?

13:12

i get super

13:12

but zach

gut

can we shoot

Also mario is prolly scum

ah

Food

13:13

Bye

13:13

O7

o/

won't be here to tell the tale

well can't we also just vote someone out

13:13

if people unvote eqsy

(nashed still hasn't unvoted)

like nashed is voting eqsy

13:13

he'll probs unvote when he sees the claim

(ironfire didnt either=

i think

@me stop voting tpow

oh right

;-;

13:14

I dont wanna kill Zenew

13:14

but I dont want to back down on my read

13:14

I did that once before

13:14

and i regretted it

<.<

wait

I scumread the scum the entire game then they had one moment where I townread them

13:14

and they won

eod in 6 min?

13:14

fun

13:14

ok

13:14

eqsy do as you wish

13:14

that way we can blame you if it goes wrong

well you could wait but that's maybe dangerous without a tp guarteed

ty

13:14

anyway test time

yes

13:15

blame me if im wrong

13:15

as I very well might be

13:15

(or we can just lynch Algebra lol)

you pick

13:16

you have the "gun"

13:16

sorta

no

13:16

you all must folllow my orders

13:16

or I murder.

13:16

im a Dictator

lmao

welp, we'll see where this goes im sorry Zenew if I'm wrong ;-;. you were fun to play with haha

@The Game (Dan) Reveal as Dictator and Hammer Zenew ;-;

13:16

goodbye.

byeeee

glglglglgl

<3

Eqsy has revealed as the Dictator!

rip

13:17

gl

Day 2 starts now and ends on June 13th at 5:25PM UTC @Alive Line SP

The Game (Dan) pinned a message to this channel. 06/11/2021 1:23 PM

first

last

So uhhh I was right but for all the wrong reasons.

moo

Rip Lune :l

rip

Anyways Ig I slept peacefully as I didn't get no feedback

eqsys sus

why

because

13:25

oh yeah

13:25

@EqsyLootz according to logic

13:25

you're bad

13:25

since confirmed town = bad

mario = jester

confuse

it's 9 v 4 lol

WHO ROLEBLOCKED ME

SCUM!

14:34

Idk

):

14:43

Lune is ded

I LIIIIIIIIVE

15:32

Also wht we voting bean agsin

somebody roleblocked me and IM NOT OK

is anyone ok

So

19:49

What are we going to discuss?

nothing

19:51

just vote bean

Pain

20:05

Lune is gone ;-;

20:05

@Lunexia on Osu! i tried

hi

20:11

quack please claim and send readlist

20:11

bye

sus

hi

20:58

ironfire please claim and send readlist

20:58

bye

Sorry Algebra

im not dead, am i?

I for sure 70% thought you were SK

22:12

My apology

ok so I know it looked like I was admitting to being sk

22:12

But I was just trying to say that maf would probably not try to vote out sk early

You were memeing very hard to be and not be SK at the same time so I thought you were overcompensating

22:14

But ok you are not SK…are you town then?

22:17

And by your logic the people who didn’t want to vote for you are more likely to be maf? If they see you weren’t SK from the start

@Quack-Attack actually tho claim please

@me im not just going to claim for no reason

00:21

gimme a reason

00:21

and ill do readlist later

00:21

not feeling up to doing one now

Meowy

But ok you are not SK…are you town then?

yep

00:36

Although, if I were mafia, would i say I’m one

Yes

00:38

Because then you can use the logic "why would I say I'm mafia as mafia"

Ah shit (edited)

anyway i said nashed v eqsy was prob town v town

Algebra

Ah shit (edited)

editing bad smh

I changed shut to shit

still bad

Quack-Attack

@me im not just going to claim for no reason

cuz you're a redcheck and i read you as scum

ah

01:06

well my reaction to lune's death should be somewhat of an indicator

Alright I'm awake

01:14

Pretty shitty the FS died

EqsyLootz

So uhhh I was right but for all the wrong reasons.

Yeah I believe you lucked into killing them, not even going to lie but I am not complaining.

Quack-Attack

somebody roleblocked me and IM NOT OK

This reads to me as it's forced.

ok

01:16

you do you

Meowy

I for sure 70% thought you were SK

I did say that they were likely not, just purely because the SK wins on their own.

im just mad cause my ability is useful

Why are you claiming PR...

im not

01:18

oh well

bruh

ig

You are

iron wants me to claim

01:18

im not claiming more than that

01:18

also the only role that can rb is mafia so

Escort exists

I stg I just looked through there

01:19

im blind

01:19

lmao

Lmfao

I got rbed and framed though smh

01:19

or iron was redirected

You believe iron's action was real and not even consider it remotely as a joke?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

01:20

im unsure

01:20

im not claiming

01:20

ill do a readlist tomorrow

Wait they never even clamed a red-check

me

cuz you're a redcheck and i read you as scum

boop

Ah nvm

feel free to ask me questions (that dont require me to make reads)

01:21

idc

But you assume that ironfire's red-check is real and that you were framed. Not even considering it at all that it's a joke at all, I find this to be a slip

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

01:23

why would I just assume that he's joking

01:23

that makes no sense

01:23

it was too direct to just be a joke imo

01:23

first thing he said today

01:27

@me is it a joke?

Mel

This reads to me as it's forced.

exactly

01:28

im not joking

Quack-Attack

@me is it a joke?

to this

yes

01:29

nashed seems to think its a joke

01:29

which is weird

Mel

But you assume that ironfire's red-check is real and that you were framed. Not even considering it at all that it's a joke at all, I find this to be a slip

^

ok sure whatever

01:29

come lynch the definitely scum quack

01:29

I dont even care

Quack-Attack

nashed seems to think its a joke

he pointed out how you immediately accepted as a fact that i attempted to check you, which a typical town member wouldn't do

me

he pointed out how you immediately accepted as a fact that i attempted to check you, which a typical town member wouldn't do

Jesus christ im so sorry for being so trusting why would I trust anyone that I consider as a friend. I must be scum for the way that I chose to believe you and tried to find reasons for you being wrong rather than you automatically being scum. Im sorry that I chose to not be like "HEY IRONFIRE YA FUCKER WHY ARE YOU LYING TO ME" and instead tried to be reasonable. Jeez dude chill out

01:32

Sorry im just annoyed

01:34

If you go "Wow he's scum because he's overreacting! Real town would rather die than have an ounce of self-respect in this game" I understand

01:35

@me @Mel ping while im online :)

ok ok ok uh

01:35

i'll back up

01:35

sorry for makign it seem that way ;-;

01:35

ok so

01:38

1) i asked you for a claim initially, to which you dodged 2) you softed tp? on lunex, rather blatantly (felt like you were looking to employ the soft on tp when someone pointed it out as credibility to your claim) 3) you claimed roleblocked when there's a role in this game that can roleblock n1, but would gain a lot more from not rbing n1 4) when i told you i had a redcheck on you and reasked for claim, you still dodged it, and that part about "i'm not claiming pr" felt awkward to me 5) you didn't counterpush me to verify that I wasn't lying

Quack-Attack

nashed seems to think its a joke

I am saying, if you are town and got redchecked by someone. You assume it's real, and don't even full-claim

also while we're at it can someone shoot mario :)

quack can you claim more than just "useful ability"

me

1) i asked you for a claim initially, to which you dodged 2) you softed tp? on lunex, rather blatantly (felt like you were looking to employ the soft on tp when someone pointed it out as credibility to your claim) 3) you claimed roleblocked when there's a role in this game that can roleblock n1, but would gain a lot more from not rbing n1 4) when i told you i had a redcheck on you and reasked for claim, you still dodged it, and that part about "i'm not claiming pr" felt awkward to me 5) you didn't counterpush me to verify that I wasn't lying

1) Didn't dodge, I said to look at my reactions to see what I was softing, also you never gave a reason for the asking. 2) Not answering this 3) Yes I did claim roleblocked. Can't say anything more about this lmao 4) Yes I did, I've literally seen people saying repeatedly that claiming is a bad idea so im not going to claim. Also the "I'm not claiming pr" part is me not knowing terminology. I immediately read it as town power and I was like "what no." 5) Did you think I was good at mafia?

Mel

I am saying, if you are town and got redchecked by someone. You assume it's real, and don't even full-claim

Why would I full claim at this point, it wouldn't benefit town and only mafia

1) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853075639321624576 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853126827455545404 felt off to me

Because you are fucking red-checked dude

^

Mario MVP

quack can you claim more than just "useful ability"

I claim pr apparently

01:44

there

me

1) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853075639321624576 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853126827455545404 felt off to me

how?

i'd assume you assumed i was joking for the first one

01:45

still repeating what i said is a dodge

Mel

Because you are fucking red-checked dude

Neat! Thanks for telling me this, I'll make sure to kneel at your feet like a dog next time! :D

then after that was a dodge

me

i'd assume you assumed i was joking for the first one

You never said why so I repeated it back because I had just as much justification as you

also you're arguing against reads, when claiming would be a step towards mechanically adding credibility .-.

me

also you're arguing against reads, when claiming would be a step towards mechanically adding credibility .-.

Yes because it's more beneficial to not fullclaim imo

01:47

Also me "dodging" is blatantly false what

01:48

I'm facing it head on and saying no

because rn the situation is that you've been seen as mafia by ti, and you're not giving any reason for us to assume that foul play was involved

no dodging occuring

01:49

I'll claim if I have to but even then im not a confirmable role

can you claim a role

also mario why did you vote me

also can I just say none of you know me very well apparently because my meta is definitely not just dodging everything

no reason

01:50

quack just claim

your soft is more harmful to us than it is to mafia

Mario isn't helping

because mafia knowing your general abilities is much more useful to them than us knowing exactly what you can use

you're right

01:51

I could help if you

01:51

claim

01:51

a

01:51

role

then employing that to help town

01:51

also on a side note mario is mafia

Ill fullclaim tp (or cit lmao)

01:51

there

That is not a full-claim

But I'm claiming toilet paper, the best role!

01:52

There's 3 options .-.

01:53

Whatever

01:53

Marshal

01:53

meme

good

k cool now can we lynch mario ty

no

I dislike this

Who did you supposedly target

Lune

01:53

Cause she always dies early

01:53

because she talks a lot

01:53

and makes good content

quack is either marshal or drug dealer i would assume

iron, that claim removes the red-check?

yea i lied

01:54

ok

You what

i was rbed as cit, mario instavoted

01:54

i would assume that was a temporary slip

You got a fucking TP to claim

he already softed

01:54

it was better for him to claim

>I didn't notice the soft

mafia just going like "wo a tp to kill" is less useful than us at least knowing

01:54

now

01:54

can we kill mario please

IRON

01:55

I want to fucking stab you

whyd you soft

01:55

twice

01:55

blatantly

in case it was town roleblocker

1/3 chance

01:55

not worth

wait a second

01:55

roleblock ccs

Wait, two roleblocks

+ making yourself more of a town read would've been better

01:55

yes

01:56

but drug dealer can use drug on someone else

01:56

directly

01:56

without giving it

01:56

so

One has to be fake unless there's an escort, drug delear has to give the drug to another person to use yes?

they cant n1 can they?

i assume thug got redirected?

01:56

they can

ye

they have 0 cd

01:56

nashed

01:56

thug rbs

01:57

and no

01:57

they dont have to giev drug to another person

01:57

@The Game (Dan) confirm

oh ok

Oh my bad then I assumed it did

I did too

01:57

lmao

There is still no utility in wasting it

01:57

N1

iron I still want to stab you though

yea

01:57

so

01:57

i assume quack

01:57

is drug dealer

01:57

who gave rb to teammate

well apparently it caused lune to die

and pretended to be rbed themself

ANd faked rb?

to cover the 2nd rb

01:57

but

hm

idk yet maybe tp just got extremely unlucky

thats me the maf

01:58

vote me daddy

anyway i wanna kill mario so we're killing mario

uh huh

Why are we killing mario

cuz he initially voted me

And I am not sure you're town anymore for outting a TP

then pushed the quack check

01:58

nashed he blatnatly softed tp

01:58

it's better for town to know exact role

01:58

*he blatantly softed marshal/bg

Did you ever assume I was good at this game

I didn't even notice a TP soft

lmao

what

Quack-Attack

@Lunexia on Osu! i tried

kek

I noticed they claimed PR right after you asked them to claim

01:59

That could have meant anything

Mel

I didn't even notice a TP soft

I died inside because of lune ded

01:59

I also didnt realize this setup had cits lmao

Quack-Attack

somebody roleblocked me and IM NOT OK

right after saying "Lune is ded"

02:00

saying it in two different occassions made it a locked soft

02:00

there was no reason to

Ugh this game is broken

+ if i was maf why wouldn't i just notice it, take note, then kill quack tonight

02:00

.-.

02:01

so

true

wifom

mario claim u.u

Once again, I'm not actually good at this, how would I know iron would be a liar and meanie

I claim town

i forgot what that meant

also ik what wifom stands for

other than "wine in front of me"

same

lol

what does it mean

^

You cannot just throw wifom out of the window

what is wifom

Town does not have that much information, thus wifom is a way for town to counter any complex plays scum may be doing.

02:02

wifom is like mind-games

ok

02:02

so like

02:02

the only viable play from this would be quack!cit

02:02

for town

02:02

just to make sure a cit is hit tonight

02:02

correct?

Mario MVP

I claim town

claim rloe

02:03

*role

What do you mean

I don't think I will

wait

02:03

are you attributing wifom to quack's soft?

02:03

or...?

if ironfire isnt lying then the random town is escort

na

02:03

rt is redirector

I thought you said you were rbed

or thug is dumb

02:04

thug rbs

02:04

drug dealer also rbs

oh two do

02:04

ok

02:04

didnt know that lmao

me

are you attributing wifom to quack's soft?

I'm attributing it to you calling it out

uh

I still dont really understand it lmao

wait so i was playing mindgames by calling it out?

02:04

i mean

02:04

sure

02:05

anyway i need to sleep for act

02:05

so

02:05

mario maf bye

why is act in june

?

you guys should vote me

02:07

im obvious mafia

done

wait no

@Mario MVP I redchecked you please claim

no thanks

I am not entirely sure a mass-claim is what we need, it's D2

why don't we all agree to vote bean

Mario who did you replace?

shroud

@Mario MVP why bean

me

@The Game (Dan) confirm

Confirm

Anyway since theres no politician cc, ig i am kinda confirmed

08:56

If there was a cc, you could lynch me. Means we sacrifice 1 townie for a maf, which i see as an absolute win

Yeah that's how I am essentially confirming you as Town at this point.

09:28

So we have two confirmed town

09:28

Eqsy / Mike

mike is confirmed what?

Mel

Yeah I believe you lucked into killing them, not even going to lie but I am not complaining.

My entire reason for lynching them was because I believed they were Mafia who made too many slipups. I did not see a timeline of them being SK

Quack-Attack

Jesus christ im so sorry for being so trusting why would I trust anyone that I consider as a friend. I must be scum for the way that I chose to believe you and tried to find reasons for you being wrong rather than you automatically being scum. Im sorry that I chose to not be like "HEY IRONFIRE YA FUCKER WHY ARE YOU LYING TO ME" and instead tried to be reasonable. Jeez dude chill out

this game is a trainwreck. Welcome to Discord Mafia folks!

09:42

Anyways, Quack feels very off today, if the redcheck is true in this situation we should for it as its unlikely framer and sheriff picked the same target, in addition they're messages have felt extremely forced, yes.

09:42

But if they claim TP and no one ccs then they're conf town though

Mario MVP

mike is confirmed what?

Poli

EqsyLootz

Anyways, Quack feels very off today, if the redcheck is true in this situation we should for it as its unlikely framer and sheriff picked the same target, in addition they're messages have felt extremely forced, yes.

The redcheck was fake...

EqsyLootz

But if they claim TP and no one ccs then they're conf town though

We would need a cc, and even a cc wouldn't be a direct cc as there is RT

Mel

The redcheck was fake...

OH lol

11:02

I guess I msiread

@me if you saw the soft, why not call it out directly instead of faking a red-check.\

11:08

I can't just let that slide

Who is in the PoE?

11:27

Mario, Ironfire, SUper, Zach, Quack, Algebra, Kokichi, Bean, Meowy, Bea.

11:27

The rest are dead, confrmed or myself.

11:28

Quack can be removed solely because of their claim, they can be solved later down the line.

11:29

Ironfire would be my biggest bet here

11:29

@EqsyLootz thoughts?

Mel

Who is in the PoE?

what does that mean

process of elimination. Essentially a list of who can be scum. Usually you factor in reads to make it smaller but that list is the complete PoE, all the scum are in that list.

11:51

Depending on what blocked ironfire, if anybody should help solve a few people. If ironfire is scum, quack is straight cleared by the fake red-check bullshit. If they're Town, quack's alignment cannot be solved through this association. If ironfire is Town and the roleblock was from scum, Mario is >rand scum from a possible slip that ironfire was thus voted there. If an escort claims a block on them, then Mario's alignment cannot be solved through this association.

11:53

Mario/Quack/Ironfire can all be in their own PoE. I think at least one scum is that that block. So one scum in { Mario, Quack, Ironfire } At least one scum in { Super, Zach, Algebra, Kokichi, Bean, Meowy, Bea }

11:53

For now, Quack's claim has me want to remove them from the PoE for now. Meaning we should solve between Mario and Ironfire today

How do you have enough brainpower to do that

12:17

My reads are always “they seem nice so they town” p much

It comes from wanting to win games, because the day I don't try is the day I don't have fun playing

Quack-Attack

My reads are always “they seem nice so they town” p much

That's a fast way to getting pocketed

Im mostly joking

Mel

It comes from wanting to win games, because the day I don't try is the day I don't have fun playing

I also want to win games my reads just dont have depth ever

Is that because you're not confident in your own reads and thus you never really try?

12:21

Just a question, not saying that's it

Mel

@EqsyLootz thoughts?

No to Ironfire I trust them. But I like your PoE

13:15

Bea is probs town

Mel

Is that because you're not confident in your own reads and thus you never really try?

Uh idk maybe but I think its mostly cause I cant actually make in depth reads like you did

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) hi! Why’d you vote without saying anything?

hi! contact my lawyers

14:38

and also i was reading the post you made about poe

14:38

you wanted to solve between mario and ironfire so i voted mario because i believe they’re the more beneficial vote

14:38

thanks! please contact my lawyers next time

I don't trust Kok

14:43

gutread

I trust Kok

Oh thats kokichi?

15:12

Meme

Hm

16:54

Ill try to do readslist tonight

16:55

I need someone to tell me how to do reads though as I’ve been like coasting along the entire time I’ve played dm

16:56

Doesnt have to be now just sometime in the future

16:56

Its always such a beating to iso people too

@Reb artificial prod

23:59

be active! :D

EqsyLootz

Anyways, Quack feels very off today, if the redcheck is true in this situation we should for it as its unlikely framer and sheriff picked the same target, in addition they're messages have felt extremely forced, yes.

kek it was fake

Mel

@me if you saw the soft, why not call it out directly instead of faking a red-check.\

cuz i scumread quack the entirety of d1 and that kinda pushed it, so i went for a strong reaction

im going to stab

Mel

Mario/Quack/Ironfire can all be in their own PoE. I think at least one scum is that that block. So one scum in { Mario, Quack, Ironfire } At least one scum in { Super, Zach, Algebra, Kokichi, Bean, Meowy, Bea }

i'd say put mario in main poe, and quack and i in one, cuz mario's not pushing me

Quack-Attack

im going to stab

who

00:13

oh me?

00:13

i dunno man just felt scummy

00:14

i dont think mario/i have to be town v scum, even tho im p sure mario is scum

00:15

that's mostly based off of that slip/gutread tho

00:16

also if mario is mafia, i'd have a slight suspicion on jackson for trying to pull attention on me

00:16

then again that could just be based off of his own logic/gut

00:16

still would trust over most other people tho

may not get readlist posted today

Quack-Attack

Uh idk maybe but I think its mostly cause I cant actually make in depth reads like you did

What's the harm in trying? Give it a shot, people will tell you if they think you're looking in the wrong direction, you then make reads accordingly to try and get as accurate of a read as possible.

EqsyLootz

No to Ironfire I trust them. But I like your PoE

I had them as town earlier as well, but outting a PR in the way they did is scummy as all hell.

me

cuz i scumread quack the entirety of d1 and that kinda pushed it, so i went for a strong reaction

So you were trying to solve them as well as get them to out their soft?

me

then again that could just be based off of his own logic/gut

The reason I have more heat over you is the fact you outted a protective soft-claim in the way you did. It was extremely unconventional, and I've also made reads in accordance of all other scenarios to solve both Mario and Quack depending on what happens.

02:00

If you're Town, the block was scum. Mario is likely scum. If you're scum, Quack is likely Town. To me, your flip gives the most information on leads. Although if Mario flips scum, by extension you are likely Town and that makes Quack readable only by their claim essentially.

02:00

I think you and Mario aren't likely to be S/S because if you planned a fake roleblock or fake to out a PR I doubt Mario would attempt to sabotage that.

or

02:01

get this

02:01

mario is town

02:01

quack is town

02:01

iron is town

02:01

you're town

02:01

eqsy town

02:02

kokichi town

02:02

mike town

02:04

here was my thought process

Eqsy/Mike are both confirmed Town, at least for the time being. Quack is a PR claim and should not be lynched today. The pure unbiased poe is - Mario - Ironfire - Super - Zach - Algebra - Kokichi - Bean - Meowy - Bea With your PoE - Super - Zach - Algebra - Bean - Meowy - Bea

algebra is town too

Super, Zach, Bean, Meowy, Bea. 4 scum in a group of 5. And you're confident you're that much of a god of mafia?

yeah

02:05

i mean

02:05

im the one who claimed sheriff

Do you have reads on those in the PoE?

with a redcheck on SK

02:06

after shooting

02:06

witch

02:06

and consort

02:06

as vet

02:06

seems p godlike to me

In this game?

02:06

sus

in a previous game

See that's a fallacy

are you being serious right now?

It was a joke

of course it wasn't think game

02:07

well so was ironfire's redcheck

02:07

but quack didn't know

02:07

I didn't know

Give https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=7for7 a read

you're asking me to do something

02:07

how about now

02:07

no*

It's essentially the gamblers fallacy, where just because you did something earlier X times does not mean it will happen again.

I see a roleblocked claim

It originated from someone getting 7 scum 7 times in a row. Hence the 7 for 7.

I think RT is escort

02:08

I see a sheriff claim

02:08

connect the dots

Where is the Sheriff claim?

well i dunno

02:08

haven

02:08

't

02:08

you

02:08

read

If you're talking about ironfire, it was fake

but did mario know this?

haven

02:09

't

02:09

you

02:09

read

didn't mario vote the TI over the redcheck who wasn't claiming

Yes you did

can someone translate this to nashed

Why did you do that

02:10

I am less confident in my read on ironfire now that this is happening.

how about @Quack-Attack ?

02:10

do you speak enough mario?

A red-flip from Mario should solve Iron

and a green flip should get bean voted

what

read

02:11

make connections

I did

02:12

it is 1 am

good

Mario shut up for a second, k. Quack, what are your thoughts on Mario and Ironfire

how about you shut up and read

You are the one that didn't even know the sheriff retracted.

I started my readlist but it got yeeted somehow

you're the one that's not getting my point

I had both mario and ironfire on there

Not getting a point does not mean I didn't read

anyway uh

Maybe you're just bad at putting your point accross

02:13

across*

well maybe my point will make sense once you all vote me

02:13

because im refusing to explain it anymore

Honestly ironfire is a townlean for me. The play that they did is way too bold imo to be a mafia play. Mario is a slight scumlean because, although he is using the common mario playstyle, it feels a bit forced tbh

If Ironfire was blocked by an Escort, they had a very solid retraction set up and thus the boldness is not an issue for scum!ironfire to get a PR outted like the way they did. If they were blocked by scum, then I would have to agree for a small portion but I still think they could have done this as scum as a form of wifom.

Mel

So you were trying to solve them as well as get them to out their soft?

yes

Mel

The reason I have more heat over you is the fact you outted a protective soft-claim in the way you did. It was extremely unconventional, and I've also made reads in accordance of all other scenarios to solve both Mario and Quack depending on what happens.

fair, i think throwing shade on unconventional isn't a great thing, but i think it's not a bad thing either, and it makes sense to also if im rbed again probably scum

02:52

wait is mario claiming escort kek

02:52

also mario feels like he's floundering here

me

fair, i think throwing shade on unconventional isn't a great thing, but i think it's not a bad thing either, and it makes sense to also if im rbed again probably scum

Why would scum block a cit claim

me

wait is mario claiming escort kek

Why the fuck would you out this... again!

04:12

Oh my god lol

shi

04:13

i just realized

04:13

idk what im supposed to do with softs

04:13

Holy living shit dude

also isn't the rt slot redirector

04:13

nashed

04:13

towngod

04:13

give me

Did someone claim redirected?

uh

04:13

i was assuming thug got redirected

04:13

cuz why would they rb someone else when they could just use thug on lune

Why would you assume that?

considering lune would probs have tp

04:13

guaranteed kill sounds

04:13

nice

04:13

versus blocking either quack or me, both of which are random

If they were killing lune, why would they block them too

04:14

Unless this is TMI

uh

04:15

wait

04:15

it's personal defense

04:15

ok im stupid

04:15

dont mind me

04:15

You thought thug removed protectives? Or?

yea

04:15

.-.

Derp

well

04:15

that's

04:15

sad

Goddamn it now I don't want to vote Mario

no

04:16

mario inter

04:16

/wdr

04:16

/delete'

I'll keep my vote solely because if they are Escort, they're outted anyway.

.-.

04:16

i think

04:16

im inting

inting?

oh uh

04:17

throwing

04:17

by revealing two pr

04:17

mbs

Yeah, if you are Town. Holy fuck If you're scum. You're a god

04:17

hehehehhe

In terms of outting PRs anyway

well

04:17

i just kinda

04:17

they softed first

04:17

blame themn

04:17

al their fault

04:17

anyway

@Mario MVP want to confirm this

04:19

If that is true, we assume it isn't until Mario confirms. TP/TS can claim to cc as there wouldn't be room for another.

04:20

massclaim rn

If Mario's claim confirms we might as well. Otherwise no

sure

@EqsyLootz @Mike, best mini golfer @Quack-Attack what are your reads

Srry has been busy week, havemt really gotten t8me. Work starting to full time again

09:46

Uhm read up a bit

09:46

Mario is cunfusing as always

09:46

Somehow more confusing than normal

09:47

More neut or scum lean than town

09:48

Nashed is more of a town read, but not sure

09:49

As fot iron, not sure, got caught up in a soft claim misunderstanding and askes for a mass claim D2

09:50

More scum lean than town lean

09:50

Then again

09:50

My reads arent that good

09:50

Does this help @Mel

Mike, best mini golfer

More neut or scum lean than town

The only neutral in this game is dead

09:52

right now its 9 town vs 4 scum

09:54

brb

Oh

09:54

Lime i said its been busy

09:54

So mario is also scum lean then

Don't apologize for being busy, I completely understand.

09:58

I get busy as well

09:58

I used to more than I do now, but I get it

09:58

Yeah SK got eliminated D1 by Eqsy's godfluke

09:59

You're thinking Mario and Ironfire both as scum, Mario being stronger?

09:59

Wait completely misread

10:00

I thought you said you were scum-reading mario, scum-leaning ironfire

EqsyLootz

right now its 9 town vs 4 scum

Indeed, that makes us have around 3 miselims left I think?

10:01

9v4 7v4 5v4 -> LyLo

+ [2] Shroud -> Mario - I retract my townread after an ISO dive it is likely mario could be scum due to their confidence against Bean including how agressive they are getting reads. For example: "How about you shutup and read" is a remark I don't see Town Mario going for. Perhaps it could be aggro!town but it just seems awkward. + [3] Turtwig - Locktown due to their Politician claim. + [4] Ironfire - Townread due to townies posts I don't see a world where Ironfire is scum. + [5] Super21 - Has provided 0 meaningful content as of this moment, I don't usually support policy lynches but if we don't get anything out of them soon it might be safer to get them out of the game. + [6] Zach - Scumlean "I thought I was told to unvote" Considering they claimed they didn't read the thread what are the chances they slipped up and unvoted because their wolf-chat told them to. Also none of their posts strike me as obv town rather NAI that could come from either alignment. OH I just found this post "Btw why is eqsy getting voted" gutread tells me this come from scum. + [7] Quack - TP claim, ill trust it. If Ironfire is scum this is locktown. + [8] Algebra - Look at Super21. + [9] Kokichi - I just can't read Dolphina properly it's been a while since i played with them i'm unable to make a decisive read. + [10] Nashed - Same as Kokichi I'm going to trust Nashed for the meantime regardless if I don't have the most supportive evidence to do so. As it is possible they defended Zenew for towncred knowing Zen was either Town or SK which would incriminate me. But I don't see scum being so agressive when a wagon is L-2 due to being put in the spotlight. + [12] Bean - Claimed Weak PR. Townread. + [13] Meowy - I don't trust Meowy further than I can throw them. Gutread Scum + [14] Eqsy - gutread tells me this is scum and definitely not locktown + [15] Bea - Gutread town.

10:06

These are my reads

Mel

Yeah SK got eliminated D1 by Eqsy's godfluke

RUDE

10:06

Wait

10:06

what does godfluke mean

10:06

lets vote Zach

@EqsyLootz delete that post in the info regarding in-game stuff

10:08

Plz

Sorry

10:08

my bad

10:08

forgot

Anyways Nashed thoughts on Zach?

10:08

like do you see them as Scum or Town

Mario - It does seem awkward and it's also hypocritical as they missed parts as they didn't read themselves. Ironfire - Would you be able to quote those townie posts, and explain why that would be. Super21 - Fully agreed, pure policy at this point. Zach - Not being obvious town does not necessarily mean they're scum in the way that I think you're getting at. I'll have to ISO them to get that post and look at the context. Why does that second quote come from scum specifically? Kokichi - Does not mean you shouldn't try, give their ISO a read and give us your best shot. Bean - I missed this

Meowy / Bea - If possible, please go through and try and make content to back these up so I can try and follow?

Tbh i completely forgot about this, schoolwork

10:56

So whats i miss

10:56

Whatd

10:56

FU-

Seems like a fake reactiion

11:13

The lil

11:13

FU-

Mel

Mario - It does seem awkward and it's also hypocritical as they missed parts as they didn't read themselves. Ironfire - Would you be able to quote those townie posts, and explain why that would be. Super21 - Fully agreed, pure policy at this point. Zach - Not being obvious town does not necessarily mean they're scum in the way that I think you're getting at. I'll have to ISO them to get that post and look at the context. Why does that second quote come from scum specifically? Kokichi - Does not mean you shouldn't try, give their ISO a read and give us your best shot. Bean - I missed this

Meowy / Bea - If possible, please go through and try and make content to back these up so I can try and follow?

after my breakfast

11:13

sure

11:13

we;ll

11:13

brunch

EqsyLootz

FU-

It was towards the fact i fucked up "what's" you overanalyzer, jeez

11:24

WHAT'D

11:24

I DID IT AGAIN

That "FU-" does seem to be awkwardly placed, @Reb what was on your head when you said that?

11:36

Oh you said it

11:36

What exactly did you supposedly "fuck up"

I said "whats i miss"

11:36

Instead of "what'd i miss"

11:37

i say "fu-" to most gramaticall errors I do

Oh regarding the grammar/spelling mistake

gramaticap

11:37

GRAMATICAL

@EqsyLootz I think it's NAI

Fu-

11:37

whatever

11:37

so whatd i miss

I recommend you give the game a read anyway so you can generate your own opinions and then we can read you and other's better. But, ironfire claimed to have a red-check on Quack. Quacked freaked out and claimed Marshal (town protective), ironfire retracted and said they caught them soft PR and decided it was better for Town if they were directly outted this way, they claim they did it in the way they did to try and solve Quack at the same time. Mario then presumably knew it was a faked roleblock before ironfire retracted, I assume as much because they voted ironfire before they retracted.

11:39

I think I got all the main parts

I knew it was a fake TI

Mind elaborating on that then @Mario MVP

well if someone claims roleblocked than means RT is taken

And that's an issue?

no obviously not

Mel

I recommend you give the game a read anyway so you can generate your own opinions and then we can read you and other's better. But, ironfire claimed to have a red-check on Quack. Quacked freaked out and claimed Marshal (town protective), ironfire retracted and said they caught them soft PR and decided it was better for Town if they were directly outted this way, they claim they did it in the way they did to try and solve Quack at the same time. Mario then presumably knew it was a faked roleblock before ironfire retracted, I assume as much because they voted ironfire before they retracted.

I kinda suck with reads so dont expect anything good from me lmao

Also I believe scum have two blocks if they wanted to use it and thus RT is not specifically taken

11:41

One via the thug and I believe the drug dealer also has a roleblock

Mario MVP

no obviously not

What I mean by that is why does that specifically make the TI fake

Mel

@EqsyLootz I think it's NAI

eeh

Reb

I kinda suck with reads so dont expect anything good from me lmao

A lot of people in this server believe the same, throw some confidence into yourself and try your hardest. What else can you possibly do

11:43

Wait

But im not tryna fuck everyone else cuz I misread, you understand?

Don't worry, if your read is wrong and we end up following it that is our combined fault

11:44

I do understand that

11:44

But not trying at all is worse

11:44

@Mario MVP I am still somewhat confused about what your point is.

11:47

@Reb to add onto the catchup. Eqsy is confirmed Town due to them revealing as the Dictator D1, Mike is also almost confirmed as long as another Politician does not claim.

11:48

@EqsyLootz that "eeh" makes me assume you disagree

11:48

Mind if I ask you to clarify on that?

Mel

@Reb to add onto the catchup. Eqsy is confirmed Town due to them revealing as the Dictator D1, Mike is also almost confirmed as long as another Politician does not claim.

K thx

11:50

also im not sure on the whole quack thing

11:51

He really seems like a whole nother person but look at me, I get boiling pissed sometimes at mafia games which isnt like me

11:51

so idk

Mel

@EqsyLootz that "eeh" makes me assume you disagree

I just don't trust Zach

11:51

Nashed who are your scumreads.

EqsyLootz

I just don't trust Zach

Cuz I didnt talk?

i stated my reasoning

11:52

I don't trust you

yes why

11:52

explain

11:52

repeat it again if you have to

Possible Wolf - Chat miscommunication, TMI, Over reactions

chat miscommunication where Wtf is tmi Overreaction where

You claimed you didnt read the thread before you unvoted me

11:53

yet somehow you knew people wanted you to unvote me

11:53

I suspect your wolf teammates told you to back down

11:53

And your Over Reaction with your FU-

I thought I saw at the current chat I was told to unvote

11:53

fucking hell

Nothing is a townie indicative

not in the past threat

11:53

THREAD

EqsyLootz

Nashed who are your scumreads.

I think there are scum in ironfire/mario. I believe more Mario at the moment but I would not be shocked if Ironfire flips red instead. I also think algebra is scummy for the SK and the way they tried defending themselves from that claim going into today.

EqsyLootz

And your Over Reaction with your FU-

I always do that tho

11:53

bitch please

Mel

I think there are scum in ironfire/mario. I believe more Mario at the moment but I would not be shocked if Ironfire flips red instead. I also think algebra is scummy for the SK and the way they tried defending themselves from that claim going into today.

you just stated you have 2 reads

11:54

What are your thoughts on people otuside those 3.

Reb

I always do that tho

regardless.

11:54

I got a huge Ego-Boost of Self confidence over Zenew's flip so I'm not afraid of being agressive

"Regardless" so in your head, doing something I've done a long ass time is a wolf thing

11:54

okay buddy

11:54

sure

Idk why I got a huge self confidence boost over Zenew considering I was sorta wrong

11:54

as I scumread them for being mafia

11:54

not SK

Also explain what tmi is

Zach even so, the way you're talking right now. You saying "Ok buddy" is not a town defense

11:55

Too much Information

11:55

Like your wolf teammates told you something you shouldnt know

11:55

or you know who is town

11:55

and who isnt

EqsyLootz

or you know who is town

So im a spectator now

11:55

Bro you wild

See, right now you're trying to incriminate me to blame reads

11:56

my opinions are sure to change

11:56

but if you want to change my opinion

11:56

give your reads

11:56

change my mind.

Im trying to understand what your fucking explanation is

11:56

Because rn you seem completely fucking wild to me

EqsyLootz

See, right now you're trying to incriminate me to blame reads

INCRIMINATE YOU ON WHAT

It's hard to make a read on anybody with no content. Quack is likely Town just based on their claim and that nobody has counterclaimed yet, although if another TP does claim I may have to reconsider depending on who it is. Mike/Yourself I have an obvious town-read on. Zach does not have much content to go off of, neither does most of the other players. I've posted by Algebra/Mario/Ironfire reads. I am likely going to have to read into the low-poster ISO's to catch discrepencies in tone as content-wise there likely won't be anything to go off until flips happen.

Reb

INCRIMINATE YOU ON WHAT

"Bro you Wild" "Okay Buddy" "You seem completely wild"

because you dont make sense to me

Incriminate as in you trying to get rid of my reads from an outside perspective

11:57

does it matter?

is it wolf to try to figure out someone's fucking explanation now

No.

SO I DONT SEE WHY ME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOU IS WOLF

i didn't say that.

Reb

chat miscommunication where Wtf is tmi Overreaction where

TMI means too much information. Generally slips from having/slipping information that the general town does not know.

I said I scumread you based on D1 Info and D2 Over reaction

what d2 overreaction

11:58

Where did i overreact

11:59

️ruh

I EXPLAINED THIS

EqsyLootz

I got a huge Ego-Boost of Self confidence over Zenew's flip so I'm not afraid of being agressive

Even though the flip was luck?

Hey, I was right on the Algebra Opportunistic lynch

11:59

Scum is opportunistic

11:59

the lynch was not purely luck

EqsyLootz

I EXPLAINED THIS

IF YOU MEAN THE "FU-" I ALREADY EXPLAINED I DO THAT AT MOST GRAMATICALL ERRORS I FUCKING DO

11:59

PLEASE

FORGET IT

11:59

LEAVE IT

11:59

GOSH

Eqsy calm down

I am getting screamed at.

Both of you calm down

And here you are. Saying the flip was luck

12:00

At this point if Zach flips scum I'm going to take a look at nashed

12:00

W/W potential

chil

hello algebra

Okay both of you stop posting until I can fully read and settle this.

also how do i contrivute or something

how would nashed even be fucking wolf from me flipping scum if i was scum

algebra just give your reads read the game and give your thoguhts on who could be evil

12:00

and who could be good

he's trying to defuse the situation

da,m

ZACH! I am confirmed town.

i camt read well

Therefore

I am saying it's luck because your reads were leading into mafia!them but they did not flip mafia and thus your exact reads did not show what actually happened, even if the outcome was the same overall.

I have my resason

12:01

there's no use arguing

It's hard to keep up with this

12:01

Please calm down

"I am confirmed town so you have to kneel and do as I command"

what

Motherfucker im trying to do my best, is it my fault I cant understand your fucking explanations on why im wolf

12:01

Christ

Mel

I am saying it's luck because your reads were leading into mafia!them but they did not flip mafia and thus your exact reads did not show what actually happened, even if the outcome was the same overall.

my first 2 arguments presented was the Framer Slip and the Possible Algebra TMI. But then I noticed their Opportunism on flipping votes which led me to believe they were scum

an aberahe townie would be more inclined to lusten to a confirmed town

Reb

"I am confirmed town so you have to kneel and do as I command"

IM SAYING!

12:01

stop

12:01

arguing with me

12:02

And give your reads

also there is no whispering right?

no, no whispering

12:02

that'd be too hard to handle

Can you remind me what was TMI that they did? Was it the unvote?

i dont have any, I literally just said that

yes,

Im not sure on the quack situation either

whispering with confirmed town would be funnt

Mel

@EqsyLootz @Mike, best mini golfer @Quack-Attack what are your reads

Going to grandparents house and isoing on phone is awful so I probably wont have my readslist until d3

12:02

Also hi

dm claim strat

Also how is an unvote a tmi

ok so tomorrow i will try ro read people or something

12:03

i woll do it soon and post in chat

UGH Zach's way of Posting.

EqsyLootz

"Bro you Wild" "Okay Buddy" "You seem completely wild"

This is deflection that Zach is doing.

If you gimme specific posts to look at then sure but rn I have nothing

Whats wrong with my fucking posting

12:03

Is it wolf

12:03

Is it sus

12:03

Explain eqsy

Yes

Reb

because you dont make sense to me

Then ask them to clarify things and post accordingly

I AM

I don't need to explain

Although I think the way kokichi unvoted earlier without saying anything is kinda suspicious

Why do you not need to explain

AND HE'S JUST GRABBING THE SHIT I SAY AND USING IT AS AMMUNITION ON "IM WOLF"

12:03

BITCH FUCKING EXPLAOM

ZACH calm down

EXPLAIN

Ok

12:04

Ill explain

Zach its ok

12:04

What are they saying?

You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf, You are wolf,

yeah u shold explain

there's your explanation

thatys not funny

Eqsy please be serious i think zach wants an actual explanation

shhh

EqsyLootz

At this point if Zach flips scum I'm going to take a look at nashed

Just because I am trying to calm the situation down, and not have your ego overtake the game. Both of you need to take a step back and reevaluate from the back-seat, then come back in when you're in less heat.

I am not going to back down from a read

12:05

Due to an argument

I am not saying to

Yeah Eqsy is going a bit too hard

That doesn't make sense

12:05

If I don't play agressive

EqsyLootz

I am not going to back down from a read

What is the read

what's the point

12:05

I don't get anything out of it

That im wolf

Quack-Attack

What is the read

Read up

Based on shit for nothing

I did

I am not saying that you are wrong, I am not saying that you are doing anything wrong. I am saying you are both being toxic

Im not reading it for a second time

12:06

I hate how people say that jeez

Mel

I am not saying that you are wrong, I am not saying that you are doing anything wrong. I am saying you are both being toxic

I ain't backing down

12:06

sorry

And it is hard focusing on actually PLAYING the game when you are going at each other

Like I obviously read the chat

He didn't tell you to back down you fucking idiot

Zach seriously stop

No

Eqsy stop

don't

12:06

stop

12:06

Zach

12:06

continue

Mel

Zach seriously stop

Tell this fucking guy to actually explain himself then

Nonono

12:07

Continue

And not just "OH YOU DID THIS SO YOU WOLF" with literally everything i did

Continue if you're going to play with a healthy attitude

explain why i'm in the wrong.

Ok i looked back

Mel

Continue if you're going to play with a healthy attitude

Don't worry!

That read seems a little bit circumstantial

can you please like

@Reb I want you to explain why I'm terrible at reading alright?

explain your read

Don't hold back :)P

Oh my god you actual imbecile

And I can confirm that I’ve seen zach say “Fu_” quite a bit

because reads are cool and all but

I explained

12:07

Read up

I WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN

12:08

WHY IM WOLF

I did

DO IT AGAIN THEN

you need people to understand

12:08

ok uh

Reb

Oh my god you actual imbecile

As a moderator, I advise that you calm down and stop throwing insults.

link themessage?

Mel

As a moderator, I advise that you calm down and stop throwing insults.

bruh

Reb

popcorn buddies

Typically Scum try to be super nice and fun near the beginning of the game to be likable. I see this a lot so I didn't like your early game posts.

well then that makes me not scum

12:09

epic

how does that even make a modicum of sense

Reb

im not a sheep, im zach

Weird Post.

IT SHOULD BE COMMON SENSE TO BE NIC

EqsyLootz

Typically Scum try to be super nice and fun near the beginning of the game to be likable. I see this a lot so I didn't like your early game posts.

Maybe people are here to just have fun please slow your role eqsy

NICE

EqsyLootz

Weird Post.

A joke

12:09

Learn what it is

Reb

Idk i heard from earlier before I unvoted that i should vote eqsy

From where?

EqsyLootz

Weird Post.

ewhy

Algebra

ew no sheeping bad

i said this

EqsyLootz

From where?

The current chat of that time, I thought

Can we create a fresh start in the thread? Calmly explain each other's point of view so we can settle things

Quack-Attack

Maybe people are here to just have fun please slow your role eqsy

Nope.

Aggressive does not mean effective

Mel

Can we create a fresh start in the thread? Calmly explain each other's point of view so we can settle things

Nope

12:10

Nope I have an idea

EqsyLootz

Weird Post.

the contect is i said stop sheeping

What's the idea

probably out to piss me off

What’s going on eqsy

this dude has a fucking vendetta now

12:10

Because im trying to play

12:10

Great

Also to clarify, sheeping is not bad by itself. Everything has context

Reb

The current chat of that time, I thought

Yet you unvoted

12:11

and didn't come ot the thread

12:11

for 2 horus

Id say eqsy is scum from the way he’s acting if he wasnt confirmed town

you didn't post

12:11

you unvoted and dipped

Quack-Attack

Id say eqsy is scum from the way he’s acting if he wasnt confirmed town

The joys of being the dictator.

something called uhhhhhhhhhh "busy"?

Quack-Attack

Id say eqsy is scum from the way he’s acting if he wasnt confirmed town

"you had me in the first half"

Reb

something called uhhhhhhhhhh "busy"?

is that so?

My high quality reads

eqsy lit the dictator of town right now

12:11

comedy

Maybe I should just make reads and then flip them around cause im always wrong

12:12

Again, have confidence in yourself dude

I have confidence that im wrong! :D

>:C

having confidence means people will flame you for being wrong

Especially about my eqsy read

what is happening

12:13

h

like eqsy over here

Reb

having confidence means people will flame you for being wrong

Agree

12:13

Ironfire be like

Just because there's one bad apple doesn't mean the whole tree is rotten

12:13

Everyone always has reads that are wrong

12:13

I thought Kokichi was scum in the last game, that was wrong.

Yeah im mostly joking anyway

I wasn't flamed and neither should you all

Reb

like eqsy over here

Really?

12:14

Because you getting mad is a huge Wolf indicative you know

Oh god here we go again

I used to do

12:14

that

12:14

scream is caps

Just like I hate making reads lmao

Zach is open wolfing

12:14

I swear.

Just because you do doesn't mean they do

maybe i just have a bad temper eqsy

12:14

not everything is about the game

yes yes I know you're wolf dwww

Its my least favorite part of the game (maybe except for cits)

Quack-Attack

Just like I hate making reads lmao

(Hates the point of the game)

EqsyLootz

Zach is open wolfing

FROM WHAT

12:14

EXPLAIN

your yelling

I FUCKING WONDER WHY IM PISSED

because you already got caught

12:15

duh

BECAUSE YOU MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE IS WHY

If you know they're wolf, instead of blatantly screaming it at all of us. Explain the read, if nobody else agrees consider that perhaps you're acting biased. And if you still disgree, convince us more. This isn't a puzzle game, it's a deduction/deception game that we must all work together to win.

Reb

BECAUSE YOU MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE IS WHY

I make perfect sense.

You cannot say that about yourself

Can we calm down pls it's just a game :(

That doesn't work like that

How much i fucking want to swear right now

You did

12:15

THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG ON WHAT SHIT COMES OUT OF MY MOUTH

12:16

YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE ME WITH THE WHOLE VALVE OPEN

O-O

12:16

ZACH

12:16

WHAT WOLF ROLE ARE YOU!

Eqsy you are not helping

YOUR FUCKING MOM'S ROLE

im helping a lot

Zach please calm down I'm asking you nicely
Close discord for a few minutes if it helps

You are not

ALRIGHT

12:16

PERFECT LOL

12:16

Zach is town

Bruh

no listen seriously

IM DONE

12:17

@The Game (Dan) GET ME OUT

@Reb I'm not actually mad I was baiting you the entire time

NOW

I did explain this to dan

12:17

Calm

12:17

Zach

12:17

calm

12:17

I was only yelling at you

12:17

saying you're obv wolf

12:17

waiting for you to do an obv town moment

@EqsyLootz I seriously want to throw a brick at you

:D

it just a game

@Reb im sorrryyyy

12:17

I had to do it to test :p

12:17

Since currently with the low activity

12:17

the only thing I could do was get an obv town slot

12:17

that way I can lower the PoE and solve

I do understand that you thought it's the only thing you could have done, but that was pure toxic dude

I'm never this agressive

12:18

I wasn't being toxic

12:18

I was just pushing his limits

12:18

to wait till he obv towns

12:18

and he did

you shouldnt be toxic ngl

@Reb friends?

12:18

do you forgive me?

even though this is literally agame about lying

I had to do it

12:18

If your slot was in an awkward position

12:18

Ihad to test.

12:19

(Im glad it worked though)

12:19

~~unless they're actually scum~~

12:19

but eh I won't have to worry bout that

@EqsyLootz can you explain what you've gotten from that, what posts are obvtown and what direction you are leaning into now?

there's a huge difference between wolf!mad and town!mad

That depends on the person

12:20

Unless you're talking wolf!mad as in fake mad

town mad will say the player is garbage at making reads or call them scum. They tend to overreact and don't care what people think of them whilst being caught up in the moment Wolf!mad will still defend themselves, probably claim and fight for their lives

12:20

I didn't see Zach defend themselves

12:20

Therefore I came to the conclusion they're town

12:21

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

12:21

I have questionable strategies

12:21

ik

I think I need to take a breather myself

Alright

That had me spooked to all hell

12:21

Hope zach and I can be friends After sad

Post-game I will probably bring this back up

lol

12:21

Assuming I'm wrogn bout them being town

Nah, just about the situation. Not about game-content

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

12:22

Ig ill see if my questionable strat payed off

12:22

as If I didnt do that I wouldnt of changed my read

Although please take note that just because you're confirmed town does not mean your opinion is worth more than others, and does not mean that you are right more than other's okay?

I obviously am not saying that

12:22

The reason I didn't explain my reads

12:22

was to test

I know, I just want that to be said.

I told them to continue to test

12:22

it worked out.

12:23

look nashed, sorry bud but I don't ever really trust my reads

12:23

I always have ounces of doubt

12:23

everyone does

12:23

the only people who don't doubt their reads are wolves

12:23

no one is ever truly confident unless they're a wolf

12:23

so under no circumstances will I pretend I know what i'm doing and lead this town

12:24

I will present my reads and get a discussion out of that

I've never trusted my reads fully, never. I hide my doubts with a death-tunnel usually, because I never want to be wrong. I am hypocritical in the sense that I try and push confidence onto others while not doing it myself but it do what it do

again Zach rly sorry.

12:24

i learned I shouldnt back down from my final read

12:24

my final read on Zach is town

12:24

my final read on Zenew was scum

12:24

If ever I change my final read chances are im wrong

EqsyLootz

no one is ever truly confident unless they're a wolf

Or has a huge ego

yes

12:25

also I was jokign bout having a huge ego over Zenew

12:25

:p

12:25

Their lynch didn't add any confidence.

12:25

as I was still mostly wrong

So what's the current lynch-pool for you?

lol

12:25

my reads I stated earlier

12:25

Mainly the inactives + Mario

12:25

lol

Also I don't mean to attack your skill when I said it was luck, it was bad wording.

nahnah

12:25

I never said I was great at mafia

12:25

although people say I do have a really good wolf-range

You do, I remember getting trampled on with you as scum.

My most recent MU with the champ practice game I survived a 9v1 all the way to a 2v1

I am lowkey glad two of the top-tier players were PR aha. One is conf-town, other never got to use their ability but eh

sadly I got lynched in f3

12:26

sorry

12:26

a 10v1

12:26

not 9v1 (edited)

12:26

OOPS

12:26

I edited.

That's not bad

12:26

I haven't played in ages

12:27

this is my second town game since my break

12:27

so I aint fully skillful yet but im still practicing!

I have a few strong scum games on MS, I am really proud of two of them. Both of which I gambited with PRs. You remember how strong I was with mechanics on ToSFM before my decline aha, or at least I hope :C

yees

12:27

I liked our neighbourhood game

12:28

you did Solid with your FPS

I did as well, I was super paranoid about you the whole game lmfaooo

12:28

You were more

I do hope I didnt push Zach to replace out

12:28

thats the issue with these things

Also I miss the doggo pfp :c

that was years ago

12:28

that was december 2019

Woah that was ages ago

12:28

Time flies

I changed it when Katie said it was a trash PFP :P

!!!! mad sounds

12:29

-- off topic but it really should be the topic -- What are your thoughts on my quack/ironfire/mario overall "solve"

I think all 3 of them beign town is a likelyhood

12:30

but if I had to pick one i'd say Mario

12:30

probs only 1 scum i nthat pool

I agree, although I think there's at least one scum in the trio. I was leaning ironfire with their play, but then Mario kinda fell from "grace".

12:31

But even then, their recent posts about knowing TI was fake is strange

12:31

Strange as in I am not sure what to make of it

12:32

Wait

Eqsy wow that was super toxic tbh

It was, but that's something for post-game like I've said.

Eh

12:32

Oh well

12:32

It wasn't toxic

12:32

it was just

12:32

Agressive to the point

12:32

of ruining someone

12:32

i feel bad

12:32

but at least I got a read

You said it wasn't toxic by giving an example as to why it was

Either way we should get past this

mmm

Yeah that was definitely toxic

12:44

Oh well

my head hurts

12:45

thanks eqsy

@Reb Sryyy

12:48

but anyways

12:48

thanks to ur huge little yelling spreee (Definitely not my fault)

12:48

ur cleared.

it definetly was worth it getting a migraine and almost putting a hole in my drywall for getting cleared on a random ass mafia game

12:49

yeah

12:49

thanks a lot eqsy

oops prodded

12:50

oh well

Reb

thanks a lot eqsy

Np :)

12:50

Also some people say migraines are a cause of lack of exercise

12:50

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

or maybe exercise reduces migraines

12:51

idk

Im not gonna even try to put sense in your brain

12:51

Im too fucking tired at this point

Im joking

12:51

dw

12:51

Just take a break

12:51

at least you didnt have to deal with me for the entire game

esqy sos

Eqsy you realize migraines are genetic-ish right

13:08

Only about 1/10 people can get them I believe

13:08

But stress and overexertion can cause them

yeah ik

Bean

esqy sos

Wha

13:59

t

13:59

What

Day

14:00

Ended

OH SHOOT

14:00

DIDNT REALIZE

Then stop talking

You gotta ping when night starts uk

Oh

Day 3 starts now and ends on June 16th at 7:45PM UTC @Alive Line SP

sticks head through window

15:45

i’m about to defenestrate someone

@Mel hi

jackson/zach scum?

15:46

hi bean

hi

pretty sure according to the quackster we’re supposed to snipe ironfire

what?

you dare question my word, you unscrupulous peasant? i bet you can’t even earn a stable income of the thin sheets of green paper you call a salary. you must have to work more than one occupation to keep up a wretched lifestyle, haven’t you? you pathetic little wench.

Alright. Sorry, I was afk for a bit.

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

i’m about to defenestrate someone

if none of you know what this means i’m really going to defenestrate someone

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

you dare question my word, you unscrupulous peasant? i bet you can’t even earn a stable income of the thin sheets of green paper you call a salary. you must have to work more than one occupation to keep up a wretched lifestyle, haven’t you? you pathetic little wench.

huh

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

if none of you know what this means i’m really going to defenestrate someone

but i want to stay indoors it's hot outside

15:52

didn't nasa use that as terminology in something

IT MEANS TO THROW SOMEONE OUT A WINDOW YOU FUCK

16:27

AND I’M ABOUT TO DEFENESTRATE YOU, IRONFIRE

yes

16:29

uh

me

but i want to stay indoors it's hot outside

doesn't this kinda show that i understood that

Ah shit my action didn't work

17:16

@EqsyLootz nooooo

17:16

I tried

@Meowy did you sleep peacefully?

WOW WOW WOW

18:24

Thug really choosing the right targets

18:25

Welp was nice jnowing yall

?

??

21:42

what

Mike, best mini golfer

Thug really choosing the right targets

elaborate

22:45

rn

No I work nights and have to sleep during the day. it’s like 90 degrees in my house and I’m too cheap to turn on ac

00:14

Why did the day just randomly start

Bean

@Mel hi

@Bean hi

Quack-Attack

Ah shit my action didn't work

Blocked again I assume

Meowy

No I work nights and have to sleep during the day. it’s like 90 degrees in my house and I’m too cheap to turn on ac

In a game, sleeping peacefully means that you didn't get any notifications such as roleblocks etc.

Meowy

Why did the day just randomly start

Because the night ended?

02:07

I recommend we don't mass-claim today

02:08

If Zach was scum I doubt scum would kill Eqsy over a protective claim, assuming Quack is Town. Fairly confident in them being Town. Ironfire is probably gunning towards us because the scum is probably in the lower tier of the Town.

02:08

Assuming Ironfire is scum

Mel

@Bean hi

hi

02:22

oh i forgot to say i was roleblocked too

Another roleblock?

02:29

So that confirms an Escort I think

02:29

Drug dealer's roleblock was a 1-shot and has to recharge yes?

02:47

quack claims drug dealed on right

02:47

not rbed

Mel

Assuming Ironfire is scum

idk you shaded too much for quack/zach

02:48

also why was zach clear

02:48

cuz i reread yesterday

02:48

and it didn't look like they were responding well to eqsy's push

I don't fully trust Eqsy's read, but Eqsy dying over a TP claim either makes Zach town or Quack mafia.

02:56

Quack being mafia is something I won't be following until a counterclaim happens.

^

02:57

so

02:57

zach lynch is probably free info

02:57

is there anyone else that we could murder

Zach lynch is a wasted one

02:57

Imo

na cuz

02:58

i'd say that zach scum = you possibly scum, which could make quack scum

02:58

also

And if they flip Town we have nothing. What's the total PoE. Zach/Bean/Bea/Kokichi/Algebra/Ironfire/Super I think that's it.

both tis dead = sad, no afk counter

Or me if you want to add me

well

02:59

we probably should

02:59

RT is still not outted yes?

mhm

Which is likely Escort due to double blocks N1, N2 (iirc one happened N1)

Mel

I recommend we don't mass-claim today

would you mind explaining this

03:00

i dont think it's esc

03:00

cuz

03:00

n1 quack was drug/ i was thug

03:00

n2 bean was thug, quack was drug

03:00

i think?

Drug has a cooldown

03:00

So you cannot use any drug twice in a row

03:00

I think

03:00

So either someone is lying, or an escort exists.

yea, but the second drug that comes up n2 makes the person that gets that drug fail their use

Yeah but they're announced

03:01

To the town

Which didn't happen

isn't it to visitors?

03:01

holup

I may have read it wrong

oh true

03:01

ok

03:01

yea

• All players affected by this drug will be announced to the Town the next

announced to town

03:01

hm

03:01

quack possible slip?

03:02

or escort

03:02

cuz quack phrased it like "my action failed"

Yeah, or Mafia is trying to set up a roleblocker claim with the 3rd drug

unlike d2, where he said he was rbed

Meaning mafia would be in the roleblocked claims

03:02

Ironfire/Bean/Quack

that's true as well

03:03

@Quack-Attack were you rbed

03:03

or disabled by weed

Quack-Attack

Ah shit my action didn't work

^

03:03

Weed would be announced

yes but

03:03

why wouldn't he just say "rbed"

Oh that is strange

"didn't work" implies "If the player chose to perform a night action this night, it will fail, but they will still visit their target"

03:04

sounds like a slip to me

03:04

That does

03:04

and yea the formatting is weird

03:04

so

03:04

i'd understand missing that

03:04

but yeaaaaa rip

rip indeed

03:06

Be back soon playing fortnite with my sister

+ [3] Turtwig: poli + [4] Ironfire: town + [5] Super21: + [6] Zach: + [7] Quack: maf? + [8] Algebra: + [9] Kokichi: + [10] Nashed: + [12] Bean: + [13] Meowy: + [15] Bea:

03:06

oki

03:06

haves fun

03:07

so

03:12

+ [3] Turtwig: poli + [4] Ironfire: town + [5] Super21: also not sure, existence would be nice + [6] Zach: eqsy said town, i disagree, feels more like maf to me + [7] Quack: maf? + [8] Algebra: not sure + [9] Kokichi: would say town, reinforced town if quack flips maf + [10] Nashed: suspicions but neutral for now + [12] Bean: either escort exists or they're town + [13] Meowy: scum? + [15] Bea: probably town

Your suspicions are probably just paranoia dude

03:22

I don't believe Bea is probably Town, they're currently null as null can be for me. Why do you think Kokichi is Town? Bean claimed a weak PR if an Escort claims doesn't that make them and Quack in a 1 for 1 at the very least

03:22

Or them and the escort

bea townread based on angleshoot

04:21

bean is because ik them pretty well, and they wouldn't do a fake rb play

04:21

also quack literal scam

Don't expect me to reciprocate the Bea TR for obvious reasons since you cannot back it up. I don't like this line of defense as scum overall could have an agenda, but I'll take that into consideration. Yes

fair, but also we don't have much else to go off of, the afks are gonna be annoying to deal with sure, furthering it tho the only plausibly hideable rb is escort rb, there's no reason to hide thug rb, so either a) bean is thug/other mafia and thug did not rb, and he is mafia, b) he's a townie that got blocked by thug, c) he's a townie that got blocked by escort, d) he's a maf that got blocked by escort (i dont think this is plausible as he would probably wait to say it, less info for town is probably better from a scum pov) awawa

If a scum gets blocked by an escort, they would never hide that

Bean

oh i forgot to say i was roleblocked too

yes, but no reason to say it like this, maybe if someone asked "any other rbs"

Why would scum make themselves seem scummy by not saying their feedback if they know that a Town caused it

05:04

Your logic is flawed

ok idk justifying a gutread turned out absolute garbage when i reread my arguments

05:07

so

05:07

yes that was stupid

05:07

but i just got the sense that bean was town

So all your reads are gut

05:18

Or angleshooting

Or am I forgetting a read

05:29

That is content-based

zach's response to eqsy's push felt ended with eqsy just saying "you're town" to avoid a large dispute or just to settle the situation, when i read it though i saw zach's responses as scummy quack scumsliip = mafia kokichi interaction with quack where quack asked why they had voted mario made me think that they aren't both mafia you seem like you're defending people/attacking people with more reasons than makes sense, makes me think that either im just not seeing everything cuz im a bad player, or that you're going off of mafia bean: yes gutread, and also i know them well and i don't feel that they're mafia, again gutread take it as you will meowy's push on algebra seemed kinda scam, reading back i can't tell what i specifically thought was suspicious about this, so i guess i'll mark it as a gutread for now everyone else is "too little content" or "gutread"

05:33

i could go into each individual message but i'd prefer to do that later, as i have finals tmrw and ive got hw

Because from what I am getting. Excluding confirmed and yourself. Super - Null-read on lack of content Zach - You said you disagreed with Eqsy's read, did you explain why? And do you have a counter to my logic to them being cleared via the kill. Quack - Probably the only read with logic I agree with Algebra - Null-read on lack of content I assume. Kokichi - Town-lean which you did not explain after I asked. Town-read if Quack flips scum, why is that stronger if they flip scum as well. Please answer that this time Nashed - Baseless scum-lean/null-read that is left unexplained. Meowy - Unexplained scum-lean/read

ah ok

05:34

uh

05:34

meowy is gut for now, i'll try to figure out why i originally said scum

05:35

Nashed - Baseless scum-lean/null-read that is left unexplained. you seem like you're defending people/attacking people with more reasons than makes sense, makes me think that either im just not seeing everything cuz im a bad player, or that you're going off of mafia dunno if you're just saying that cuz it's a scumread on you or not, but idt that's baseless :(

05:35

algebra/super yea probably

Zach - You said you disagreed with Eqsy's read, did you explain why? And do you have a counter to my logic to them being cleared via the kill.

If Zach was scum I doubt scum would kill Eqsy over a protective claim, assuming Quack is Town.

that's assuming quack is town, where i assume he's mafia + an eqsy kill sounds solid if they actually did roleblock the protective so idk your kill clear doesn't apply in my assumptions i think as for disagreeing with eqsy's read: he said "HAHA JK YOU'RE 100% TOWN" which just sounded like "ok i want to end this argument so i'll pretend it was all intentional" https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853669247065522207 why i thought he was scum: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853667270931644456 tbf this isn't an invalid point, and i don't think it deserved the reaction it did https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853668750586544148 eqsy literally writes "cuz ur getting mad", getting even madder/screaming more felt also scummy https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853665599091245086 .-. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853663961005031425 this could've been actually responded to i think my point (although i grabbed random quotes that i found got a reaction out of me and just kinda justified) is that although eqsy was just "perfect, he's town" i found nothing townie indicative from that confrontation

05:47

Kokichi - Town-lean which you did not explain after I asked. Town-read if Quack flips scum, why is that stronger if they flip scum as well. Please answer that this time https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853351011287826472 probably cuz if they were both scum together, he alr would've went "wait who's bee" and then someone would say "kokichi"

05:47

yea thas probably most ofi t

05:47

will reply for your reply while doing hw

Sorry had to go right after posting that, didn't read what you said before it. Gme started

ah iss fine

So you're saying Eqsy said they did that to clear solely because they wanted to end the dispute? They would not have thrown a complete scum-read to a lock-town read to defuse the situation so that makes little sense. They were dead set on their read and then retracted it immediately to say a town-read makes little sense if it was fabricated.

06:03

Game starting again brb

okii

Mel

So you're saying Eqsy said they did that to clear solely because they wanted to end the dispute? They would not have thrown a complete scum-read to a lock-town read to defuse the situation so that makes little sense. They were dead set on their read and then retracted it immediately to say a town-read makes little sense if it was fabricated.

oh btw could you elaborate on this, because to me i didn't see a clear reason why eqsy suddenly switched to a townread, and you imply that there was some sort of solid reason?

Give me a little bit

06:27

Your read on Kokichi is only substantial if Quack flips mafia, otherwise it's null or gut reads yes?

mhm, that's the only content i found

06:36

*worthwhile content

06:39

also i sleep now, will reread during class or after finals :o

Your read on me is that I am pulling out logic that you don't fully understand? Why not ask for clarification instead of chalking that up to me being scum.

07:04

Eqsy did not say that at all, they said they were sorry they were so toxic but they had to check if Zach has a scummy reaction to what they did, and they did not according to Eqsy. They did not retract it as if it was a joke like you are trying to say.

hey everybody popping in once again to say that ironfire/nashed interaction was very tvt to me

hello

08:57

chat

08:59

ok uhhh i was askedto scum read or something

08:59

ok time to write paragraphs or something like that

09:03

so i think meowy is a town ~~because he said sorry to me for calling me sk~~ because i do not think scum would try to out sk so early in the game like he tried with me and he kinda asked questions or something which i scum wouldnt do i guess???? though he hasnt even said that much stuff and hasnt claimed a role so this read is not really that good tbh

me

@Quack-Attack were you rbed

nope! :)

10:58

im assuming a framer also visited eqsy or something

10:58

so I scared them off too

10:58

instead*

10:58

idk why I wouldn't just be blocked though

To Ironfire Regarding your read on Meowy, if your read was genuine how did you forget it... I mean baseless because it has no real content to make it out that it's scummy. Alright if Quack does flip scum it does remove that clear in my head, I'll let you have that one. But if they flip green, Zach does as well.

Im kinda leaning scum for meowy for some reason

10:59

idk why

Hmm

11:00

If you cannot put content behind your read, I cannot follow it

yeah ik ima look into it later

11:00

gutread rn

There's a lot of gutreads in this game

lol

11:01

I also see that you're voting me

11:01

could you kindly not

I'll keep it there for the relative future until I can put my brain into the game. Am making 1am pancakes aha

1 am

11:02

10 am for me rn lmao

It still feels really awkward with the way you decided to claim the visit failed.

11:05

Like instead of saying specifically that you scared someone off that wasn't the kill, you decide to leave it all open to suggestion. If you are scum, that would leave you open to multiple different outcomes whether you claim roleblocked, you claim what you did or some other thing.

11:05

If you are Town, the way you said so was incredibly awkward

Quack-Attack

idk why I wouldn't just be blocked though

doesn't marshal have priorities

11:21

oh wait ok

Mel

It still feels really awkward with the way you decided to claim the visit failed.

^

Mel

Your read on me is that I am pulling out logic that you don't fully understand? Why not ask for clarification instead of chalking that up to me being scum.

sorry, probably worded this badly to clarify, every step that you take seems to have a solid reason behind it, but sometimes to me those reasons dont line up, like why you decided to initially throw suspicion on me when i pushed quack/mario, but when you seemed more protective of zach

Mel

Eqsy did not say that at all, they said they were sorry they were so toxic but they had to check if Zach has a scummy reaction to what they did, and they did not according to Eqsy. They did not retract it as if it was a joke like you are trying to say.

i didn't actually get the toxic thing, it seemed like a fair push to me and yea eqsy concluded that he didn't have a scummy reaction, but i don't see how it could've indicated that he was town either not retracted as a joke per se, i think i saw it more like retracting in panic simply to avoid further yelling

me

sorry, probably worded this badly to clarify, every step that you take seems to have a solid reason behind it, but sometimes to me those reasons dont line up, like why you decided to initially throw suspicion on me when i pushed quack/mario, but when you seemed more protective of zach

I'm protective of Zach because they're the strongest TR of mine after Mike because of the Eqsy logic. If Quack flips Mafia I may hgave to reconsider but for now I don't want to make a wasted lynch.

Mel

To Ironfire Regarding your read on Meowy, if your read was genuine how did you forget it... I mean baseless because it has no real content to make it out that it's scummy. Alright if Quack does flip scum it does remove that clear in my head, I'll let you have that one. But if they flip green, Zach does as well.

3 am + my memory does that .-. so sorry and yea maybe i had a gutread and forgot to denote it on my readlist

Mel

I'm protective of Zach because they're the strongest TR of mine after Mike because of the Eqsy logic. If Quack flips Mafia I may hgave to reconsider but for now I don't want to make a wasted lynch.

uh could you explain eqsy's logic

11:27

cuz i didn't rly get it

me

sorry, probably worded this badly to clarify, every step that you take seems to have a solid reason behind it, but sometimes to me those reasons dont line up, like why you decided to initially throw suspicion on me when i pushed quack/mario, but when you seemed more protective of zach

I think you're looking too far into my words, I want to win the game so I of course don't want to waste time of lynching those I think is town and I want to optimize the lynch, like yesterday your flip would have given us a lead going into today. Quack gave us that lead going into today but I didn't know that yesterday

me

uh could you explain eqsy's logic

Okay so Eqsy went ham on Zach to try and get what type of defensive they get, as scum!defensive would be purely based in self-preservation although what Zach did was not, they didn't claim or threaten to claim, they were purely getting mad about how Eqsy was acting etc.

11:30

Immediately after Eqsy called Zach town, I have very high doubts scum would kill there if a low-tier scum just got changed to top-tier from a confirmed Town. But they did kill them, if Quack is town, I am almost certain that they are Town. If they aren't there's that room of error but I am still confident.

11:31

Now a question for you, what makes Zach scummy with how they acted like you said they were. If you answered that please quote it as I do not remember it

me

Zach - You said you disagreed with Eqsy's read, did you explain why? And do you have a counter to my logic to them being cleared via the kill.

If Zach was scum I doubt scum would kill Eqsy over a protective claim, assuming Quack is Town.

that's assuming quack is town, where i assume he's mafia + an eqsy kill sounds solid if they actually did roleblock the protective so idk your kill clear doesn't apply in my assumptions i think as for disagreeing with eqsy's read: he said "HAHA JK YOU'RE 100% TOWN" which just sounded like "ok i want to end this argument so i'll pretend it was all intentional" https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853669247065522207 why i thought he was scum: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853667270931644456 tbf this isn't an invalid point, and i don't think it deserved the reaction it did https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853668750586544148 eqsy literally writes "cuz ur getting mad", getting even madder/screaming more felt also scummy https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853665599091245086 .-. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853663961005031425 this could've been actually responded to i think my point (although i grabbed random quotes that i found got a reaction out of me and just kinda justified) is that although eqsy was just "perfect, he's town" i found nothing townie indicative from that confrontation

this i think

Mel

Okay so Eqsy went ham on Zach to try and get what type of defensive they get, as scum!defensive would be purely based in self-preservation although what Zach did was not, they didn't claim or threaten to claim, they were purely getting mad about how Eqsy was acting etc.

so zach was town cuz he didn't claim...?

No I am simplifying

11:32

Try re-reading the whole scenario

also yelling at people while ignoring defending yourself at all whatsoever sounds like a pretty ok technique to defend yourself

Except that tactic typically comes from new!scum that is trying to flip the elim onto the accuser, which is not the vibe I was getting. I may end up having to chalk this up to opposing opinions.

11:33

Either that or you pushing an agenda

11:35

Wait

yea but regardless of "scum would probably be self preservative" he still didn't defend himself, and if his reaction of yelling to eqsy was the only thing that makes him town, idk that feels like a weak base to me

11:35

sry had to stop midway cuz mom walked in

Mel

Except that tactic typically comes from new!scum that is trying to flip the elim onto the accuser, which is not the vibe I was getting. I may end up having to chalk this up to opposing opinions.

so isn't that really just how it felt, kinda gutreadish, or is a gut read a term for smth else that i didn't realize

Mel

Either that or you pushing an agenda

and you mean by this...?

All good. I will have to give the situation a re-read and so should you. I'll do so in the morning. Why would scum have killed Eqsy here if Quack was town without blocking them? Throwing in another role is fine and dandy except the last PR is hidden and could be anything so that's too risky rather than just blocking them.

me

and you mean by this...?

All this trying to convince you is pointless if you're scum pushing town!zach as an agenda

11:38

I think my judgement is somewhat clouded because I am tired so take what I am saying with a grain of salt. If you need clarification I will do so when I wake up.

Quack-Attack

im assuming a framer also visited eqsy or something

Looking back, why would you dead assume Framer is even a role that exists here let alone being the role that was thrown in there.

Mel

All good. I will have to give the situation a re-read and so should you. I'll do so in the morning. Why would scum have killed Eqsy here if Quack was town without blocking them? Throwing in another role is fine and dandy except the last PR is hidden and could be anything so that's too risky rather than just blocking them.

will do after class

well in the event that quack is town, it's possible that mafia got an early jump on the last pr and has more information than us, which would suck, or otherwise they could've assumed that in the case of a tp rt, quack is a higher priority than a confirmed cit? i think there's multiple reasons why they could attack eqsy even holding to the fact that he hard townread zach

Mel

Looking back, why would you dead assume Framer is even a role that exists here let alone being the role that was thrown in there.

i think it's a guaranteed roll right

Let me check

11:40

Oh my bad

the issue is that yea, why would mafia just send framer along if you could've been lying abt marshal and that you could've been bg instead

I don't think scum would play that ballsy if they could play it safe by blocking the TP claim.

^ quack is a scam

Mel

All this trying to convince you is pointless if you're scum pushing town!zach as an agenda

fair, best information would be to assume im not tho right

Mel

I think my judgement is somewhat clouded because I am tired so take what I am saying with a grain of salt. If you need clarification I will do so when I wake up.

oki that's fair as well, wait day3 start isn't pinned @The Game (Dan)

EqsyLootz pinned a message to this channel. 06/15/2021 11:47 AM

ty :o

11:49

k yea we have time

11:49

~28 hrs eod i think?

Ok so

12:36

Im just gonna say that this isnt gonna happen so I’ll come out with what actually happened

12:37

Basically underboss jailed me last night so I couldnt protect eqsy

12:37

I sent a message to underboss basically talking about how they were jailor and strategy, then told them to say a thing to me to indicate they were jailor so I could protect then

jailor isn't rollable

My goal was to hope that underboss was a newer player or didnt know the setup and thought there could be a reg jailor so I could out them

12:38

Exactly

that's bullying

Thats how I knew it was underboss

12:39

sideeyes you

well first off

12:39

idk how underboss meta works but if that's like 3 rbs on maf side uh

12:39

dan wth

12:39

also

Lmao

12:39

Im probably gonna be jailed nightly but left alive im assuming

12:40

So evils can kill freely without having to waste a kill on me

still the "aw my action failed" doesn't make sense

Yeah ik I was trying to say it in a way that didnt indicate I was jailed

in that case the correct play would probably be "i was jailed last night" and just hope that people catch on

12:40

tsus?

My play was that “I was keeping them hidden”

12:41

I said that in my message to them

12:41

I didnt expect the play to work

Quack-Attack

I didnt expect the play to work

sus

Just wanted to try since I was jailed anyway

12:42

I knew I wouldnt be dying

12:42

Also this happening is your fault for forcing me to out myself

Quack-Attack

Basically underboss jailed me last night so I couldnt protect eqsy

Bruh

what exactly did you say

12:43

word for word

Uh am I allowed to say that

Quack-Attack

Im probably gonna be jailed nightly but left alive im assuming

If you are scum, this would be a smart way to make sure you have a reason for not dying.

Ok

Probably ask Dan first

I am

can we just massclaim

Ok he said I could

nashed you said that wasn't optimal or smth

Scum has three roleblocks

whyso

12:44

uh

Heya! How’s it going there Mr. Jailor? Nice job on jailing the 100% confirmed tp. Although that was probably a bad play, I can understand your reasoning. I’m assuming this was some sort of play to stop the mafia from killing me, so good on you! Since im tp, I can protect you if you give me some sort of signal tomorrow. If you ping me and say, “Quack, did you sleep peacefully?” I’ll know to protect you! Good luck and I hope you dont die tonight! I’ll also keep quiet so that people don’t know that there’s a jailor in the game. :)

If a PR claims, they can be blocked

we could trade 1 for 1

12:44

uh

12:45

rolelist is like

12:45

escort, poli, tp, and cits

12:45

pretty sure it'd be fine to massclaim here

If Quack is mafia, and there is no Underboss. There is still two roleblocks scum can use. If they are Town, there are three.

We dont know for sure if its escort

Four total roleblocks if Escort and Underboss actually exists.

12:45

Tf is this game

^

12:46

Quack-Attack

We dont know for sure if its escort

i think knowing what rt slot is

12:46

would be

12:46

freelo

I do not think so

we have one mislynch

12:46

allowed

12:46

Knowing the rt slot gives maf advantage I think

12:47

As they can be more strategic with their blocks

I think so as well, it also gives the mafia the exact person to block. If RT is Escort it is best hidden regardless

12:47

yes but

12:47

2 mislynch we lose

As Escort in LyLo gives us that one chance to not lose if we miselim tomorrow

12:47

OR today

having clear scumvtown sounds > than mechanically playing it

12:47

tru

12:47

what if it isn't escort tho .-.

What if its a cit

that

12:48

would

Wait can it be a cit

be

12:48

unfortunate

Yes

yes

12:48

yes it can

Oh god

12:48

dan why

12:48

do you do this

Don't jinx this

@Mel also the thing earlier about knowing about framer

12:48

There’s confirmed framer

12:48

.-.

yis

12:48

well

12:48

4 maf, 7 town

Anyway its useless since ti is ded

@me give reasons as to why we should mass-claim over not. @Quack-Attack you do the reverse, if you believe it to be so

My cat ran away so I cant do indepth stuff rn

Quack-Attack

There’s confirmed framer

Yeah I realized that

Looking for her

3 prs dead, 3 prs remaining

Is your cat safe? Is it gone as in out of your property?

4 cits

We dont know

I don't want PRs chain killed

they

12:49

alr have

@Quack-Attack what are you doing on here?!

12:49

quack go find cat :(

Waiting for response from mom about missing poster

oh

12:50

like it's been a while

12:50

sads

We lost her last night ;-;

I hope you find her

Me too

:c

Kitty

She's cute

those eyes u.u

12:50

anyway!

me

3 prs dead, 3 prs remaining

One of those PRs is Mike.

yea

12:51

one conf town

12:51

one tp claim

12:51

and one hidden pr

12:51

vs 4 maf

Oop

well and a bunch of cits

Or could be a cit which is awful

shush

12:51

we

12:51

do not

12:51

condone pessimism here!

5 cits

:)

I hope its also to

12:51

Tp

that'd be cool

Cause otherwise we’re screwed

So we have two other PRs, one PR claimant is being scum-read and is likely not dying. Other is hidden and could be anything. -- If it were TP, and were not on Eqsy. Shame

Cause im not gonna be able to do anything anymore unless underboss is ded

uh

12:52

quack could die

12:52

assuming they are tp

They’re better off jailing me and just using rbs on unknowns

Doubtful if scum can roleblock them and still have them as a lynch-bait. Which is unfortunate to solve them

also underboss sounds plausible enuf so

This setup is scuffed

Why did Underboss not jail anyone yesterday?

probs not early reveal right

Id assume so

12:54

Can they exe n1?

exe takes place of nightkill

12:54

Ye

maybe

12:54

lunex was

12:54

underbossed

That's how it usually works yeah, and that could have happened true

Thats what I thoughti

12:54

I doubt tp can protect from underboss kills

it can

12:54

actually

12:55

Oh really?

12:55

Thats good

Quack-Attack

Thats what I thoughti

What you said says otherwise

tp still takes effect, exe isn't unstoppable

Mel

What you said says otherwise

?

Id assume so

12:55

Is what you said

12:55

So you assumed that and thought they killed lune at the same time?

What

uh

Am I misreading

well quack probably asked "can they exe n1" cuz it just occurred to them that they could hide themselves while simultaneously killilng?

Yes

seems like a logical progression of thoughts to me but

12:56

idk

Or something like that

also now who do we kill

12:56

:c

Idk ;-;

can we massclaim plez

12:56

would make things easier

@me claim

12:56

Meme

alr did

12:56

iron: probs not early reveal rght

QUack: Id assume so

QUack: Can they exe n1?

12:57

In that order

hm

No mass-claim yet

probably insert an imaginary 'oh wait' in between

12:57

QUack msgs one and two

QUack stuck I guess lmfao

What

12:57

oops

@Quack-Attack confirm?

mb

Pretty much

@Quack-Attacc

12:58

@QUack-Attacc

12:58

Fixed it

ok anyway

12:58

oh true

12:58

ok anyway who do we murder now

12:58

i want massclaim

12:58

plez massclima

12:58

massclam

12:58

clammity claimity

If I get cucked by a QUack/Ironfire team I will be flexing in end-game.

12:58

Not yet

uh

Lmao

if i get cucked by a jackson god at this game and perfectly-seems-townie ima cry in end-game.

>:)

12:59

I mean

:c

sus!

:c

ok anywahy

You both seem town to me

mike: poli me: awesome QUack: tp underboss: exists entire mafia setup: confirmed? triple maf rb tonight: also exists antimatter braincells: spawning in now

13:00

help

I think we need to set up a solid town core

+ [3] Turtwig: poli + [4] Ironfire: town + [5] Super21: also not sure, existence would be nice + [6] Zach: eqsy said town, i disagree, feels more like maf to me + [7] Quack: maf? + [8] Algebra: not sure + [9] Kokichi: would say town, reinforced town if quack flips maf + [10] Nashed: suspicions but neutral for now + [12] Bean: either escort exists or they're town + [13] Meowy: scum? + [15] Bea: probably town

13:01

so

I probably wont be getting readlist done today

super, zach, algebra, kokichi, me, nashed, meowy, and bea 4 cits and a pr

13:01

Cause cat missing and homework

Underboss may not exist if Quack is Mafia, take note of that fwiw

mhm

me

super, zach, algebra, kokichi, me, nashed, meowy, and bea 4 cits and a pr

Didn’t you say you were cit

well

13:01

im not gonna put myself as confirmed

cuz im not

13:01

but

13:01

yea i claim cit

fwiw I am not going to claim until I find it necessary

starts pushing nashed's soft

My soft?

k anyway

13:02

huh

13:02

idk i thought you were softing pr

Mayhaps

13:02

We won't find out until mass-claim

perchance

13:02

why

13:02

no

13:02

masscliam

13:02

tho

13:02

clam

13:02

❣️

13:02

wtf

13:03

that's a thing lmao

AHAHAHA I have never heard of perchance before that's great

:clam:

Mel

AHAHAHA I have never heard of perchance before that's great

ayaya!

❣️

13:03

ok but rly the only thing that massclaim does is make 4 mafia try to hide within either 4 cits or one pr slot

13:03

so like

Mel

fwiw I am not going to claim until I find it necessary

What does fwiw mean

massclaim sounds like freelo

fwiw means for what it's worth

^

Ah thanks

google op o.o

Im lazy

13:04

And on phone

oh ok

13:04

phair

13:04

now!

No in advance

can we force 4 mafia to hide within 4 cit/pr please

13:04

frik

13:04

got outplayed ig

plezplez

13:04

it'd be

13:04

funnnny

Let me think about a few outcomes first

Me when 8 cit claims

cuz i think one mislynch to figure out who the real pr is

Scum have more cards to play than we do it seems

combos into bullying random citizens

Quack-Attack

Me when 8 cit claims

~~or 9 and pr is cit~~

;-;

wait

13:05

hold up

13:05

no that'd be 8

13:05

scammer

13:05

wait it'd be 9

13:05

wait

13:05

im confused

What

13:05

What what what

wait it'd be 9

13:05

ok yea it'd be 9

13:05

mhm

13:05

yup

13:05

cool

Unsmart

Mass-claim may end up allowing scum to hide in the PRs

:thonc:

13:06

one pr

13:06

or if they cc tp

13:06

well that'd be funny

Can you guys spam ping people who are afk

@Quack-Attack

that would be

Im going cat hunting now

highly illegal

13:07

@Quack-Attack

13:07

oh wait

13:07

sori

13:07

ok

Quack-Attack

Im going cat hunting now

Seriously. Good luck

^

13:07

!

Not spam pinging just like finding whos afk and pinging them for activity

@me

@Mel

ok so anyway

13:07

what else can we do

13:07

but massclaim

13:07

i dont wanna lynch quack anymores

13:08

maybe eat a ny smore

13:08

ok ignore that

13:08

uh

If there is exactly two PR claims I fuckin' hope to god it isn't two TPs

Lmao

Mel

If there is exactly two PR claims I fuckin' hope to god it isn't two TPs

That would make neither claim confirmed

13:08

As RT could be cit, scum can claim TP to make neither claim confirmed.

haha what if mafia claimed prs and rt was actually a cit so they were both false haha unless.....

13:09

yea

13:09

ok let's hope that DOESN'T happen

13:09

what else

By claiming, we're essentially making this mountainous btw

13:09

Like confirmed mountainous

what's mountainous :)

Cits vs Goons

is that a setup

13:10

oh

No PRs

bet

13:10

les do it

13:10

mafia if you dont rb the real pr i stg

Alright I have to go for now

13:12

3am aha

o/ gn

13:12

but

13:12

massclaim asap ty

13:13

~~hehe what if i waited for nashed to leave then started pinging for claims~~

not sus

@Bean claim

quack pinged me

15:22

hes sus

@Bean claim

i claim the 5th

15:32

why am i claiming

Bc sus

Alr this is as dead as eqsy is

na

22:49

we just waitin for nashed to wake up and exist

22:49

anyway @everyone anyone have anything against a massclaim?

Oh right

23:45

Hi im back

23:45

Cat remains unfound

23:46

Ok anyway so I need to state why im against a massclaim ig.

23:47

Massclaim would be stupid as it would likely reveal the 1 unknown PR at this point. The mafia has 3 action blocking members and there are 3 living PRs. If the PR remains hidden then they can likely continue doing their actions without being intercepted by maf

23:48

Furthermore, I expect most if not all of the mafia to claim cit, then we would have 8 cit claims and have gotten nowhere besides outing the PR

23:49

See the problem with me being outed? I couldnt protect eqsy last night cause ironfire forced me to out my role, which effectively makes me useless

23:49

@me

Quack-Attack

Cat remains unfound

:(

Quack-Attack

Massclaim would be stupid as it would likely reveal the 1 unknown PR at this point. The mafia has 3 action blocking members and there are 3 living PRs. If the PR remains hidden then they can likely continue doing their actions without being intercepted by maf

yes, but a) with 2 free rbs roaming around pr is likely to get hit anyway, b) is waiting for an unknown pr to get enough information that they feel comfortable with claiming really more useful than clear groups with scum counts

Quack-Attack

Furthermore, I expect most if not all of the mafia to claim cit, then we would have 8 cit claims and have gotten nowhere besides outing the PR

as we whittle down members the pr will become clearer, also there's a high likelihood for the pr to die without giving town any info at all, which would suck

I am back but not really

02:55

I am playing fortnite I'll catch up soon

02:55

Lowkey disappointed in the lack of activity

sad

me

anyway @everyone anyone have anything against a massclaim?

This didnt ping me?

Mel

I am playing fortnite I'll catch up soon

Ew fortnite. How could you fall so low

Dictator- Eqsy (killed) Forensic Scientist- Lune (killed) Politician- Turtwig Town Investigative- Mario (Tracker/lynched) Town Protective- Quack (Marshal) Random Town- Citizen- Citizen- Citizen- Citizen- Mafia Head- Drug Dealer- Thug- Framer- Serial Killer- Zen (lynched)

04:28

Quake is likely to be roleblocked again tonight

04:28

so for the rest

04:28

Ironfire- Claiming from start likely citizen. Super21- Pretty inactive. Neutral Zach- I am not into the anger but likely citizen. Algebra- Scummy still, although I was wrong about him being SK before. kokichi- Wants to defenestrate ironfire? scummy. Nashed- Probably not a PR since he would've done something with the info he collected already. Neutral. Bean- Claimed role blocked, but I don't know how to read that. Neutral. Meowy- Make up your own mind Bea- Beginning of day 2 asked if she was still alive, then pretty inactive afterward. Seems to to distance herself away from being targeted by being AFK, scummy.

04:29

Mafia seems pretty smart, so far hitting the right target. I haven't played with any of you guys but its likely a smart player among this list is mafia

Mike, best mini golfer

Ew fortnite. How could you fall so low

It's people like this that make the internet a shit place

04:31

If you don't like something, don't. But do not throw that hate onto other people

04:32

Low-posters need to post

04:33

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) are you kokichi?

Geez it was a hoke

04:37

I play battle royals too, so why would i hate on FN

Alright, just take what I said as talking to people in general

Yeah it wad a bad joke anyway

04:38

Anyway i will be going to a theme park so i will be back in around 6 7 hours

has the nashed potato claimed yet

They have not

ok

04:41

cuz u kinda sus

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-sus-imposter-impostor-when-the-impostor-is-sus-gif-20515193

not denying it :)

04:42

cool

>:)

read list: kokichi: sus because of defenestration nashed: sus because didnt deny susness

04:43

everyone else: neutral ig

What other info do we have besides just reads

If a mass-claim doesn't happen I would like an elim in bean/bea/meowy/kokichi/super

Meowy

What other info do we have besides just reads

The night results pretty much

04:53

And a likely N1 no-visit on Ironfire

04:54

Because of the way Mario did not believe Ironfire's gambit

but we can't verify that quack and bean actually got roleblocked right

That is correct

04:55

Although if we mass-claim and there is no protective claims. Quack is confirmed Town

What about random town

Random Town is hidden at the moment

04:55

As in they're not claimed

when day ends

hm

06:43

if i die tonight

06:43

i would like to congratulate nashed for being a god at this game

06:43

ty ty

@Meowy why are you so insistent onme beingsk or scum

I'd assume it's called a "scum read"

09:45

@Algebra why are you so insistent in shading other's

what does that meann

09:46

also it was because he said i was sk earlier then he was wrong and now hes saying im scum so uhh

09:46

ehhhhh

Why are you so afraid of one scum-read

because its targeted to me

09:55

and it says im scum

09:55

there

That is what I said

09:56

Why are you afraid of that

because he has been continuously accusing me from the start of the game

If you thought someone was scum, would you accuse them once and then drop it?

10:30

No of course not

no but he thought i was sk at first and not scum, then after sk died he changed his read to me being scum, which to me seems like he just really wants to lynch me, and the reason he though i was sk was that i was memeing as sk, and i dont really think that reason works as well as me being scum

Mel

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) are you kokichi?

yes

Algebra

@Meowy why are you so insistent onme beingsk or scum

No solid reasons but I’ve always thought you were something/ PR from the start

10:54

Very vocal very early

10:54

Almost lynched but saved by dictator

10:54

Since then not very active in chat

10:55

Just seems scummy

ok

10:55

understandable have a nice day

But I want to make absolutely sure that my read is just that, and is pretty worthless

i think the very vocal very early part was kinda just me overmemeing at the start

Very possibly so but I can’t tell

anyway i think meowy is town

10:57

but still kinda sus for the stuiff i said earlier

What’s your read on the remaining players

uh

10:58

can you give me a list on remaining players

Um out of the unconfirmed ones IMO are: Ironfire, Super, Zach, kokichi, Nashed, Bean, Meowy, and Bea.

im just gonna say rn that i think bean is scum for just not realy doing much ~~i totally didnt do the same thing~~

11:02

uh zach, i think thats the guy that gameraged, probably citizen

11:04

super21 is doing epic afk strat so we can just lynch him if we have nothing better to do

11:05

nashed is talking very much and voting me though i find him somewhat suspicious any citizen who is normal would probably vote me because i am very sus

11:06

kokichi is also afking so we could lynch them

11:08

ironfire said a lot so i didnt really read much but he seems like town to me because he voted me earlier

11:09

i literally cannot find who bea is so no comment

11:09

k thats all

Yes prod the afks

Algebra completely retracting upon getting heat

11:11

@me @Mike, best mini golfer @Quack-Attack thoughts?

11:11

They throw heat onto who disagrees with them, yet retracts under any heat.

damn.

Mel

They throw heat onto who disagrees with them, yet retracts under any heat.

wait wdym by that?

Hm

11:15

Good morning btw

Mel

They throw heat onto who disagrees with them, yet retracts under any heat.

I might be unsmart but where did they retract

idk lol

11:17

he might be trying to get me to start raging like the other guy did to zach

Algebra

understandable have a nice day

here

11:17

They're cracking under pressure

Algebra

he might be trying to get me to start raging like the other guy did to zach

No, difference is I don't do that

Mel

here

godamnit i knew something would happen when i said that

11:18

ugh

bruh

I thought he was just being nice and reasonable

I dont think that’s retracting tbh

i just said that because i needed to say something and had nothing else to say

11:19

sounds scummy right?

I usually do similar stuff when im just tired of arguing with someone so I just say something along the lines of “yes, ok bye”

Algebra

i just said that because i needed to say something and had nothing else to say

I do it too dw

but i thought it would be even more sus if i just said nothing

11:20

so i just said that

They could still be scum, but them saying that is nai imo

11:20

@Mel

They're still attacking all that give the heat

11:22

them*

11:22

What they're doing is getting under my skin and I Can't explain it

uh i think i might need to sleep soon

Hm

i might still be around her

Ima iso meowy cause I still scumlean them

but eventually i will sleep

Mel

They're still attacking all that give the heat

i mean wouldnt a citizen do that too?

11:23

or am i just being overagressive or smth

Nvm after isoing meowy im now thinking townlean

11:25

Lmao

11:26

The only suspicious thing imo was when they were asking why we wouldn’t do nolynch, although that could just be because they’re new https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/852380953107365888

11:26

I also think bee/kokichi could be evil from interactions imo

11:29

Tbh they havent talked much but when they do it seems like they’re trying to stick to memephase a little bit which is a way for mafia to make posts without making content

11:30

@The Game (Dan) also you should do prods

11:31

Also that random point where they voted mario without saying anything in day chat until I pinged them

11:34

@Mel what do you think?

11:34

Also @Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) im making an artificial prod for you. Please talk

11:36

@EqsyLootz replace me daddy

I can't legally.

Sad

11:37

Do it illegally then

You need to break a rule

Quack-Attack

Nvm after isoing meowy im now thinking townlean

bruh

Lmao

11:39

It was a gutread initially but after i looked at their stuff they seem to be playing like town

Pushing no-lynch is NAI, a lot of newer players push it regardless of how strongly they think we should.

Quack-Attack

It was a gutread initially but after i looked at their stuff they seem to be playing like town

Yeah this is why you should always look into your gutreads

Yep

11:39

Thats why i did

Be back in a second

Kokochi seems like a viable lynch to me, what do you think?

I agree

11:53

I was voting them prior to Algebra

11:54

Only reason I switched was because of what I've said

11:54

@Quack-Attack read their ISO and tell me what you think.

I did

11:54

Or do you want me to do algebra

You did Kokichi?

Yes

Bean

not denying it :)

lul what is this, svs or smth

Mel

@me @Mike, best mini golfer @Quack-Attack thoughts?

hm i think we can tvs you and algebra

12:29

also

12:29

why kokichi

Cause they kinda sus ngl

I mean its kokichi

me

hm i think we can tvs you and algebra

Mind explaining

Sus is their middle name

If we do not eliminate those we cannot read

12:53

We WILL lose

12:53

If they're Town, we will lynch them in LyLo even if we flip three scum in a row. If they're scum, and you are always "but that's them" they get a free win

12:54

Town does not get freebies, we must actually try to get where we want.

Mel

Mind explaining

was stupid and complicated way for saying that yall dont seem like faking an interaction between maf/maf

12:54

but it could be t/t as well

Mel

If we do not eliminate those we cannot read

this is sfair

12:54

but then can we go delete the actual afks

YES

cuz i feel like kokichi can make content

They never do

12:55

They pretend to, but they never do

:(

12:55

scam

12:55

two mislynch = lose

12:55

@Reb is in this right

we could just hit information lynches and wait for the mafia to bring down candidates

12:55

until it's just rng between cits

Bc he is alive line

yup

12:56

why

12:56

o.o

No content?

na

12:56

they've got content

12:56

just

Huh

imo it's scummy content

12:56

uh

12:56

"from:zach in:sp1-chat"

Oh yeah

12:56

That exists

mhm

12:56

super useful

Its all rage

12:57

And just rage

12:58

Geez

12:58

I mean migraines are hard

12:58

But you just takr a pain killer and nothings wrong

I hate migraines

Believe me i have atleast 1 migraine a month

12:59

It sucks

Also a lot of time pain medication doesnt help with migraines for me

Paracetamol? Idk what you guyd call it

idk eqsy and nashed both hardread town on zach for raging

12:59

well ok not raging but

12:59

not exactly being calm

12:59

so uhm yea idk

Uhm

personally id say that was scummy

12:59

but like

12:59

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I love having visual migraines which result in me not being able to see out of one eye!

He was under pressure from a migraine

ouch

12:59

oh uh

12:59

i mean

Oh he was?

13:00

Didnt know this

Quack-Attack

I love having visual migraines which result in me not being able to see out of one eye!

Thats the start of a migraine

13:00

First that

Not all the time

Then it dissapeats for 5 minutes

Sometimes its only that

13:00

For hours

Then massive headaches

Sometimes its just the headache

I always grt the eye

Ive only had it once where it was both

13:01

My mom only gets the visual migraine

Which is good bc i can taje PK as soon as my eye goes off

I dont get them often enough to be prescribed medicine for it so I just have to take ibuprofen

13:02

What I get most often are cluster migraines which suck

13:02

Basically its like a migraine that stops and starts over the course of days, weeks, or months

13:03

Imagine sitting there then out of nowhere having migraine pain for 10 seconds then it goes away again

13:03

Not knowing when it will come back

13:03

;-;

rip

Or being at school then suddenly having a mini migraine that lasts an hour

13:03

Twice a week

13:03

Pain

13:04

I havent had a bad one recently

13:04

It was worst when I was in 7th/8th grade

oh

13:04

also can someone explain why bean is sussing nashed

13:04

is there a reason

13:04

did i miss something

13:04

cuz it doesn't seem like anyone is questioning it

me

until it's just rng between cits

bruh

me

also can someone explain why bean is sussing nashed

Because I never denied being sus ')

13:09

SUS

13:10

fuq

13:10

caps locked

13:10

uh

13:10

caps lock

13:10

*sus

I mean caps made it intense

13:10

SUS!!!!

but

13:10

it also

13:10

was a little reminiscint

me

we could just hit information lynches and wait for the mafia to bring down candidates

What lynches would those be

of what my little brother does

13:11

which is kinda cringe

Mel

What lynches would those be

stab zach

13:11

or stab quack

No

13:11

Zach gives us no info

13:11

it gives me info on you

13:11

ok fair

13:11

how bout quack

You probably won't even be able to get a lynch on me regardless

actually wait

Mel

You probably won't even be able to get a lynch on me regardless

hmmmm

me

actually wait

Waiting

yea quack lynch is int

13:12

cuz

What information will we get if Quack flips town/scum

underboss getting eaten = op

13:12

ykw most of my "i need information" things are based on you

13:12

cuz ur like

13:12

a good player

13:12

which is scary

Underboss/Thug have the same utility in this setup

13:13

And Drug dealer

13:13

Heck they can all roleblock

.-.

13:13

this is fun

13:13

im having fun!

13:13

yup!

Lmfao

13:14

Mass-claim will roast us to all god

true

13:14

!

13:14

now @Bean i want answers

Quack is already outted thus they're getting pinned down so an elim there will not make us lose utility

also

13:14

uh

13:14

pr has higher chance of getting hit

13:14

with random rbs

I highkey hope the RT is Escort or something that cannot be blocked and we clutch an Underboss elim

13:15

That's our only shot at utilizing PRs

13:15

Underboss being the only role that can block an Escort I would assume

13:15

This is actually stressful

Why would we lynch me what

ok nashed

13:16

can you

13:16

uh

I can

list of alives, guess who's maf

13:17

tin can!

Gimme the list

13:17

It's 3am

ok

Its 12:17 pm

+ [3] Turtwig: + [4] Ironfire: + [5] Super21: + [6] Zach: + [7] Quack: + [8] Algebra: + [9] Kokichi: + [10] Nashed: + [12] Bean: + [13] Meowy: + [15] Bea:

13:17

i think that's accurate

Also at this point I want to trust you simply because if I do not set up a town-core we are going to be roasted.

yea likewise

I do think you guys are town

except that you being a good player has permanently made me suspicious of you

~~Mostly because iron is afk when he’s evil~~

wha-

13:18

i would NEVER

13:18

i would like to correct that misunderstanding:

13:18

i afk if i lose motivation :)

Turtwig - Town Ironfire - Town Super21 - Null Zach - Town Quack - Scum Algebra - Scum Kokichi - Scum Nashed - Jester Bean - Town Meowy - Null Bea - Null Considering Quack's role I do not want to eliminate them so I would probably replace them with a null and focus on who I have listed as scum.

me

except that you being a good player has permanently made me suspicious of you

That downsides of being good at scum

Mel

That downsides of being good at scum

Nobody ever trusts you in any game

wait then nashed

13:21

who's the tp

Even if you get green-checked

13:21

Quack claimed TP

yis but if he's lyin

13:21

who's tp

I am not going to speculate who the PRs are

13:21

Considering there are.. 3 heckin' scum roleblockers

YO WAIT

Waiting

one of my friends just texted me that they're playing mafia in class

13:21

woajfwoeaijofiawjfoawi

13:21

i wanna be there

Bruh

they've got like

I THOUGHT

prs

YOU HAD

and everything

A REVELATION

Im not scum!

lol

13:22

sori potat

me

one of my friends just texted me that they're playing mafia in class

BRO

also

This is so sad

@Bean give me a revelation!

13:22

im assuming bean's reason is "nashed good player" but stilllllllllllll

I played a mafia game in person with 30 people once

13:22

Nobody knew what was going on

Quack-Attack

I played a mafia game in person with 30 people once

awawa

13:22

they've got prs on index careds

Oh god that's a lot of people

13:22

15 players too

13:22

tos setup

Oh nice

Nice

Jealous

o.o

13:23

same

Quack-Attack

Im not scum!

This is pointless to say, but I also said that I don't want you eliminated. Even though if you are scum, you are likely the underboss considering everything which is a bad spot for me to solve from.

ahahahaah they got vig

Mel

I am not going to speculate who the PRs are

ok

When is EoD?

13:24

I lost track of time

uhm

13:25

2 hours

13:25

uhhhh

Wait is it like in an hour or is that tomorrow around this time

13:25

OH FUCK REALLY?

13:25

@The Game (Dan)

welp

@me what's your read on Bean

i usually do this as a joke

13:26

but

Mel

@me what's your read on Bean

town

Yeah same

uh

13:26

at this point

13:26

im leaning towards rng

13:26

cuz that prevents interference from me or you if eitehr of us are scum

Can we elim out of Algebra/Kokichi? Which would give us the most information

elim out of all afks?

13:27

that would guarantee scum in the pool

13:27

whereas that small of a pool, if you're scum, would mean that we guarantee mislynch

RNG I like to avoid

without sufficient data i feel like this is best course tho

Even educated guesses are better

not necessarily

13:27

id agree if you were like

If we elim from someones reads we can get a read from that person

confirmed

13:28

yes but 2 mislynches, like 4 afks or smth

Say you elim from my algebra read, you can then re-read that after the flip to get a better read on me etc.

13:28

I know

13:28

The situation we're in is bad

id

13:28

ignore reads between us two for now

At this point if we do not set up a town-core, we will not win out of pure paranoia

cuz it's not gonna get us anywhere if we can't elim inside of afk pool

13:29

^

What is the list of AFK's

hey @maf can yall attack poli ty

13:29

super, algebra, kok, meowy, bea?

You want mafia to kill in the confirmed?

or at least too little to read

Ohhh

13:30

wait a sec

13:30

does thug remove defense

13:30

cuz that'd suck

(yes I was hoping you wouldn't say that, now shush)

fuq

13:30

welp

13:30

nvm attack uh

That was my "Ohhh" moment

some tomato

13:31

or something

13:31

ok

13:31

anyway

13:31

ANYWAY

13:31

uh

13:31

uh!

13:31

@Bean it's lunchtime wyd

Algebra/Kokichi would by the middle-ground between AFK and read

13:31

Other's can be seriously prodded and create content by tomorrow or we lose.

kokichi isn't readable imo, algebra is a scammer mafia but i could be wrong, and i don't think i could say that i can be certain of read cuz too little to go off of

13:32

-.

13:32

-.-

scammer?

gutread maf

13:32

uh

13:32

we should like

13:32

totally have a game where

13:32

every maf just afks

Do you think you will be able to read Kokichi if they're left alive tomorrow?

Or Algebra

13:32

imo Algebra will be easier to solve

idk kokichi well enough to answer that, or algebra, but anything they say will probs help

13:33

^

Quack-Attack

Also @Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) im making an artificial prod for you. Please talk

sorry

id agree to that

13:33

hi kokichi please

So I think we lim kokichi today

claim and state reads

13:33

u.u

13:33

well

i dont really have any reads

13:33

i

13:33

well i dont know if you could tell

Im scumreading you

but i wasnt very active

I remember getting almost cucked in endgame with them in the last game

uh

really? didn notice

the one thing i do have

13:33

ironfire/nashed are pretty townie

feadfwadghae

they’re very solvy and productive, which usually equates to town

mhm ty

13:33

now

13:33

uh

and they had an extremely townie interaction a while ago

oki oki

Ok, you’d know they’re town if you’re maf

so

13:34

would you like to

13:34

go get one person

13:34

and say that they're maf

13:34

plez

13:34

with reasonable reasoning behind it

uh

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) can you tell me why we shouldnt lynch yoy

yoy\

Quack-Attack

Ok, you’d know they’re town if you’re maf

okay whoa whoa whoa

13:35

why so confrontational

I scumread you

yea

13:35

for what reason

13:35

explain

You seem e v i l

13:35

Because you

that’s bullshit

aiyoh circular reasoning

i seem evil?

13:35

fuck off

13:35

you’re scum

Give a reason why you’re not then

you’re literally just targetting me

Ok then

because

13:35

i’m offline

okay whoa whoa whoa why so confrontational!!

Unopposed to claim here

jk

right? easy target

Tp

frame me for freezing cos of scum or something

13:35

and

13:35

you still havent explained

13:36

why am i evil? “just because”

13:36

no, no, fuc off

13:36

*fuck

I did earier

reading

Earlier

13:36

Read up

13:36

no

13:36

i dont care

13:36

explain

13:36

now

Bye

dont try to fucking deflect

What

you didnt explain

I need to go do cat stuff

you said “you’re evil because”

13:36

”you seem evil”

13:36

and never fucking explained it

13:37

no, no, fuck off with your deflection

13:37

you just said “you seem evil” AKA equating my scummyness to a gutread

@me still here?

and then when i asked you to explain further

ofc

Thoughts

13:37

?

Quack-Attack

Tbh they havent talked much but when they do it seems like they’re trying to stick to memephase a little bit which is a way for mafia to make posts without making content

Bop

you fucking deflected and asked me to give you a reason to explain why i’m not evil

Quack-Attack

Bop

bitch fuck off

kokichi is kokichi

what the fuck are you talking about

What

Regarding Quack

literally when i pop in i try to make as much content as possible until my wim dies again

13:38

listen bitch

13:38

it’s legitimate content

id assume makiing content

with a joke edge

Scum overreaction?

no no no

13:38

i’m fucking

Scum doesn’t like being caught?

to be honest

13:38

i dont know why im cursing

13:38

but fuck off with your stupid ass reasoning

Because you’re fucking

you’re scumreading me

13:38

based on me memeing too much

13:38

and then

13:39

a gutread

13:39

that’s bullshit reasoning

13:39

listen alright

13:39

you claim that whenever i pop in i just shitpost and that’s it

Atleast it got you to talk

13:39

More talking = easier to read

Wrong

13:39

That last bit is wrong

More than afk people anyway

kokichi, your content is that you've affirmed nashed/i as town, which is awesome, but scum should find it easier to say someone's town (either to cover for teammate or just cuz they know beforehand) than to accuse someone of scum

that’s true

so

13:40

if you could find a scum :)

bitch

besides quack :)

okay

13:40

wait who’s in this game again

13:40

hold on

If a person has no content it's impossible to read, if someone has a lot of content it is EASIER in comparison but still not easier in literal sense.

Im unopposed tp claim .-.

+ [3] Turtwig: + [4] Ironfire: + [5] Super21: + [6] Zach: + [7] Quack: + [8] Algebra: + [9] Kokichi: + [10] Nashed: + [12] Bean: + [13] Meowy: + [15] Bea:

Without a mass-claim

13:40

Make a list duder

13:40

okay

13:41

hold on lemme read these other people’s posts

Alright, we don't have long

13:41

We have until pretty much exactly two hours

13:42

5:45 my time if I can get the time conversion right

13:42

I will not be on at EoD

13:42

It's 4am almost here fam

yi

13:43

oh ok

oh yea okay

13:43

quack is definitely going mad with power

laughs in eqsy

@me I don't appreciate how much Quack is throwing around that they're an uncc'd PR that also pushed against a mass-claim. They also deadass completely avoided fully responding to Kokichi.

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

quack is definitely going mad with power

What

Kokichi and Quack are not scum together

okay first off algebra is very

13:45

contradictory

Mel

Kokichi and Quack are not scum together

id def agree on this point

which i find to be either confused ass town or kinda scummy behavior

me

@Bean it's lunchtime wyd

no

13:45

its not lunchtime

Mel

@me I don't appreciate how much Quack is throwing around that they're an uncc'd PR that also pushed against a mass-claim. They also deadass completely avoided fully responding to Kokichi.

Bruh im literally on the phone im about to go to the store and look for cat some more

Mel

@me I don't appreciate how much Quack is throwing around that they're an uncc'd PR that also pushed against a mass-claim. They also deadass completely avoided fully responding to Kokichi.

tbf tho he has a point, there arent any ccs

13:46

also not responding wise, id assume he just pushed for content

I know

Algebra

super21 is doing epic afk strat so we can just lynch him if we have nothing better to do

?????? they’re trying to lynch people for being afk

Bean

its not lunchtime

it was whne i sent it .-.

me

also not responding wise, id assume he just pushed for content

yee

13:46

We need eod content

13:46

Ok bye for real

its brunch

13:46

bye quack

But it's hard to make these decisions without a mass-claim but also the entire situation will put us in a worse one if we do.

13:46

Game is broken

ok bean v cool

Algebra

nashed is talking very much and voting me though i find him somewhat suspicious any citizen who is normal would probably vote me because i am very sus

and this is just fucking bullshit. this is just “they’re voting me so i gotta scumread them lol”

Probably wont be on before eod besides in small bursts

13:46

Keeping my vote in kok for now

EoD we won't be able to get a mass-claim in anyway

id townread kok

I'm so torn jesus

Ping me if there’s a solid reason for me to switch

also

13:47

quack

me

id townread kok

I will have to agree for now to be honest

why the fuck would you scumread me

13:47

when bean is literally doing the same thing as me

13:47

but worse

^ true

because there’s NO content in there

13:47

just shitpost

13:47

and yet

13:47

you dont seem to give a fuck about them

But bean always does that

YEA

so does kok

what

AND I ALWAYS DO THAT

13:47

WHAT THE FUCK’S YOUR POINT

I dont remember you doing it

13:48

Lmao

WHAT

13:48

you have to be joking

oof

you have to be actually joking

13:48

i afk on mafia games all the time

Tomorrow I want a mass-claim

what the fuck are you on?

Wat

13:48

My memory doesnt last between games

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

what the fuck are you on?

Are you assuming they're Town being dumb here?

what the fuck no

Mel

Tomorrow I want a mass-claim

also spam ping afks early on for content cuz this was helpful in kokichi's case

well either they’re

13:49

unrealistically stupid

13:49

or they’re fucking scum

or youre misinterpreting

oh- forgot to take myself off Do Not Disturb

Bean

or youre misinterpreting

why are you defending them (edited)

If I do die, mass-claim tomorrow is the best course of action. Make sure you get all AFK's to actually post or do something about it, tomorrow is LyLo and we cannot afford to mess tomorrow up

isnt he marshal?

Assuming we mislynch today

13:50

A marshal claim

13:50

We have not mass-claimed yet

13:50

So that is still unconfirmed

Bean

isnt he marshal?

yea okay a pretty fucking suspicious marshal at that

hmm

13:51

watch like

13:51

super be tp

13:51

or smth

Please don't even joke about these stuff

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

oh- forgot to take myself off Do Not Disturb

hint: if i’m on do not disturb, i’m offline

The more info scum has the worse

ok mb

13:52

hum

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

hint: if i’m on do not disturb, i’m offline

oki ty

13:52

good to kno

13:53

although

13:53

nashed

13:53

wouldn't it be better to leave both algebra and kokichi alive

13:53

well actually id townread kokichi as of now

13:53

but

same

algebra alive, since he seems more likely to make alignment-indicative content than the other afks

13:53

Same outcome

well

I'd rather try my hardest to flip scum today so we aren't in LyLo

fair

i’ll vote with you two

13:55

i’m clueless tbh

Mel

Turtwig - Town Ironfire - Town Super21 - Null Zach - Town Quack - Scum Algebra - Scum Kokichi - Scum Nashed - Jester Bean - Town Meowy - Null Bea - Null Considering Quack's role I do not want to eliminate them so I would probably replace them with a null and focus on who I have listed as scum.

would you like to revise

Gimme a bit

13:58

Gf in pain

oh oki

13:59

priorites are importante :)

Yeah I have to go now

14:06

Sorry

14:06

But replace kokichi with one of my nulls

14:07

To play it safe, probably stick with Algebra and if not go Bee

probs

14:12

if i die tonight please remember to sus jackson! he's intimidating!

No

When does day end

N E V E R

Mel

@The Game (Dan)

What

15:31

Day ends in 13 minutes

15:32

If that's what you were asking

awowowo

@Alive Line SP day 4 you know the drill Ends june 19th at 9(?):50PM utc (edited)

Alright.

wait

17:51

wait what

17:51

:thonk

17:56

also hey who rb me

17:56

that boolying

hi why am i still alive. ik i am useless but this hurts maf, why value a duck over me, a very trustworthy not lying politician

lul

i never lie

super zach nashed meowy?

i say get super for no reason

i'd say zach, nashed, then 2/3 of super/meowy/bea

17:57

hm

sure

so it's lylo rn

17:57

@pr please claim

17:57

rn

oh no

17:58

we will be stuck with all the cits

if pr is cit ima cri

how can a power role be cit

17:58

wait pr doew stand for power role right

uh

17:59

rt has a cit rollable in it

17:59

which

18:00

is depressing

soo you mean if rt is a cit imma cry

18:01

not pr

yea

srry autistic

18:01

tru tru

18:01

yes

18:01

wait what

Mike, best mini golfer

srry autistic

what dis mean?

my autism couldnt handle you using wrong shortcut

soriii

so i apologised for if it idk

18:02

i a,m weird

18:02

anyway

iss fine

18:02

ok

18:02

so

zack it is..?

+ [3] Turtwig + [4] Ironfire + [5] Super21 + [6] Zach + [9] Kokichi + [10] Nashed + [12] Bean + [13] Meowy + [15] Bea

18:02

are alive

18:02

it's not u

i was conf day 2 yes

i don think it's kokichi or bean

18:03

and it's not me cuz me

18:03

so

nashed seems town

stabbity stabbity let's kill zach

18:03

nashed is very not town

but he is deceptive

for reasons that i cannot justify

oooook

yes that's gonna get roasted by nashed until i feel powerless and can't vote him

18:03

but!

18:03

i don trust nashed

18:04

cuz

18:08

well yes

18:09

.-. ykw ill wait to see what jackson wants to do

i definitely didn’t forget about this

20:09

h

20:09

help

20:09

helo*

What have I misse

02:25

missed*

02:32

Why the fuck was I blocked?

I'm fairly confident in scum being Ironfire and the rest are the AFK players. Iron is dead-set on me being scum, without even being able to justify that and Zach who is pretty much confirmed Town considering Quack died last night and Eqsy died the night previous due to my logic in clearing them post-eqsy flip. The fact they prioritized and Eqsy kill over Quack, but then killed Quack means that they were not keeping Quack alive because of their mislynch equity, as they would be alive right now. Yet Ironfire is selectively ignoring that in order to try to wagon us both. Another kicker is that I probably know who the other PR is because they actually claimed the other day but since scum is still roleblocking randomly it seems it's obvious they don't know who it is. Ironfire being the only actual person that I know did not catch the claim since they were PR-hunting yesterday, which is a scum trait. They were also pushing for a mass-claim to get the PR outted. This is so obviously scum it's not even funny.

Mel

I'm fairly confident in scum being Ironfire and the rest are the AFK players. Iron is dead-set on me being scum, without even being able to justify that and Zach who is pretty much confirmed Town considering Quack died last night and Eqsy died the night previous due to my logic in clearing them post-eqsy flip. The fact they prioritized and Eqsy kill over Quack, but then killed Quack means that they were not keeping Quack alive because of their mislynch equity, as they would be alive right now. Yet Ironfire is selectively ignoring that in order to try to wagon us both. Another kicker is that I probably know who the other PR is because they actually claimed the other day but since scum is still roleblocking randomly it seems it's obvious they don't know who it is. Ironfire being the only actual person that I know did not catch the claim since they were PR-hunting yesterday, which is a scum trait. They were also pushing for a mass-claim to get the PR outted. This is so obviously scum it's not even funny.

ahh, and so it begins

03:03

hehe

03:06

time to try to convince people that nashed is scum, despite him being one of the greatest players in this server

03:06

ok ok ok

03:06

WAIT YOU'RE HERE

03:06

THAT'S SO MUCH EASIER

You have already lost, give it up

ok ok ok ok ok ok

Who's here

Mel

You have already lost, give it up

why would i do that, i get to face off one of the greats

03:07

you

03:07

:)

03:07

ik ill lose alr, but i need the experience so

03:07

if you're willing to, plz :)

03:07

k

If you know you'll lose why did you pick a fight with me?

Ironfire and the rest are the AFK players id say "afk" constitutes super, meowy, bean, bea, (maybe zach/kokichi but not really) you already stated a townlean on bean you also don't seem to mind lynching kokichi (evidenced by bringing them up along with algebra) [this could've been bait but not entirely sure, timing might've been a bit opportunistic, will keep this in consideration] you're hellbent on protecting zach despite his only townie proof being his yelling and eqsy's word i can't draw a bead on meowy/bea/super but ill look through your messages regarding them later **but isn't this an obvious statement? why send it? pretty much everyone is afk, so the "fairly confident" makes this an interesting go

Mel

If you know you'll lose why did you pick a fight with me?

wha- how does one improve without limit testing

03:11

" Iron is dead-set on me being scum, without even being able to justify that" sure

03:12

"Zach who is pretty much confirmed Town considering Quack died last night and Eqsy died the night previous due to my logic in clearing them post-eqsy flip." mafia can influence nightkills not town guessing motive behind kills is useless when it's all too possible that you are scum, and making the right hits it can be noted that both the eqsy kill and later quack kill were viable decisions, and therefore cannot be used as evidence of proving zach, since it is not too far out of the ordinary

Again, you're choosing to misrepresent my logic in clearing Zach and chalk it up to solely Eqsy's logic which is far from the case. Zach is cleared because of Eqsy's logic, but not directly. Quack flipping Town is proof that scum did not want them alive to counterclaim them or get them eliminated, thus why did Eqsy die before Quack? The TP? Because scum saw Eqsy as a threat, scum would not kill them if Zach was actually scum as that is a clear way to a win, even if all other mafia die.

03:13

In what world would town!me not be hellbent on protecting a town-read

03:13

Honestly answer that one

"The fact they prioritized and Eqsy kill over Quack but then killed Quack means that they were not keeping Quack alive because of their mislynch equity, as they would be alive right now." kill based? those kills were both viable kills there were no tp ccs anyway; quack wasn't a viable mislynch target, but it was good to keep him in hand as someone who seemed suspicious to the town, while being useless as they would be rb locked

03:14

"Another kicker is that I probably know who the other PR is because they actually claimed the other day but since scum is still roleblocking randomly it seems it's obvious they don't know who it is. Ironfire being the only actual person that I know did not catch the claim since they were PR-hunting yesterday, which is a scum trait. They were also pushing for a mass-claim to get the PR outted." kek bean claimed weak pr

If you were scum!zach. Would you have killed the TP or Eqsy in that situation

me

"Another kicker is that I probably know who the other PR is because they actually claimed the other day but since scum is still roleblocking randomly it seems it's obvious they don't know who it is. Ironfire being the only actual person that I know did not catch the claim since they were PR-hunting yesterday, which is a scum trait. They were also pushing for a mass-claim to get the PR outted." kek bean claimed weak pr

Weak coming out now that I've brought it back up.

"This is so obviously scum it's not even funny."

let's not, okay, kill based logic + you were hunting prs are both justifiable kill based: alr refuted i took advice and didn't emphasize bean's pr claim, but i'd believe them over others massclaim to get pr outed when they alr claimed? i was just waiting to see if bean would be willing to start it

I was not hunting PRs

03:16

I was actively doing the opposite

03:16

You definitely were

Zach is cleared because of Eqsy's logic, but not directly. Quack flipping Town is proof that scum did not want them alive to counterclaim them or get them eliminated, thus why did Eqsy die before Quack? The TP? eqsy died because he was conf town, a good player, aggressive, and easy kill if tp is locked

You even asked me who I thought was the PRs

Mel

I was not hunting PRs

was speaking from third person, i was talking about myself

03:17

sry for misunderstanding there

Why would you speak in third person?

Mel

Weak coming out now that I've brought it back up.

if you read back you'll see that i already noted it .-.

Mel

Why would you speak in third person?

it was supposed to be like the quoting thing, like you said "you were hunting prs" to me, but this argument is flawed

03:18

"Because scum saw Eqsy as a threat, scum would not kill them if Zach was actually scum as that is a clear way to a win, even if all other mafia die." kek eqsy could've locked onto one of the other 3 mafia members, better to have him gone after a clear statement of "zach is town" before zach ints and makes himself even more mafia like

03:18

kill reading is useless because both sides can be so easily argued for

Mel

In what world would town!me not be hellbent on protecting a town-read

town read wasn't justified tho, as stated before: in that message above, you state that it was kill based logic, which doesn't work for me, and eqsy's logic, which was "HES TOO MAD TO BE TOWN"

03:21

now: push num 1 hard townread on someone who stopped making content after their initial outburst, and leaving them ignored even though they haven't been active (as a town should be if they're being townread)?

03:22

you could attribute to irl matters, but the fact that eqsy was out, and that they seem largely afk now, could just be them leaving it up to their mafia team members to take care of the rest

Say scum was AFK and then was called confirmed town by a confirmed Town. Would you think they would attempt to control the Town more? I would say so. If a Town was AFK and then called confirmed town by a confirmed town. They would be like "I don't even have to try now I am conf!town" and would have no need to actively justify it because they know they're Town and thus would go AFK again.

03:23

From experience on Mafiascum, which is heavily focused on day-play

03:25

My logic is never surface-level

Mel

Say scum was AFK and then was called confirmed town by a confirmed Town. Would you think they would attempt to control the Town more? I would say so. If a Town was AFK and then called confirmed town by a confirmed town. They would be like "I don't even have to try now I am conf!town" and would have no need to actively justify it because they know they're Town and thus would go AFK again.

you're establishing their confirmation as town i am not, i dont think quack was either,

What

Mel

My logic is never surface-level

and yet your push on me is "they pushed me without solid reasoning behind it, because they wanted to kill me and zach despite kill logic (don make sense), and cuz they looked for massclaim to out pr (knew identity, waited to see if they would do something, apparently they didnt)

03:26

so

03:26

would you like to deepen your read on me

Mel

What

people other than you see zach as scum, he's not just conf town he's on the verge of it tho, but he refuses to post content for true no effort

03:28

anyway

03:28

mafia with 3 rbs in play, pr probably doesn't have info

03:28

so far wagons are me/you or zach

03:29

i want more people here :/

03:29

hm

03:29

wait

03:29

what's bea's id

You revealed an early PR by a gambit, that got the protective outted completely including their exact role. Which only benefits scum. Here you are pushing for two people, one of which you constantly keep misrepresenting my logic for even though I have said many many times why I believe so yet you keep misrepresenting that. You then go on to OMGUS vote me when I vote you here today.

03:30

TLDR

03:30

I've been thinking you were scum since that gambit, only dropping that since I thought we completely lose if we do not form a town-group yet that's thrown out today because of how likely to be scum you are.

03:31

Why would scum even block you as a Citizen claim. They wouldn't, they would block elsewhere

You revealed an early PR by a gambit, that got the protective outted completely including their exact role. Which only benefits scum. "which only benefits scum" you say 1) quack was under redcheck pressure, meaning he could've lied about exact role as tp 2) quack softed, identity of pr leaked and probably rb locked from now on, at least we could verify that quack was a legitimate part of the role list to begin solving 3) scum doesn't need exact role, they just want to block/kill prs and confirmed?

03:32

what's omgus

03:32

" one of which you constantly keep misrepresenting my logic for even though I have said many many times why I believe so yet you keep misrepresenting that. You then go on to OMGUS vote me when I vote you here today." make a list that details why zach is townie, and message link each reason :)

me

people other than you see zach as scum, he's not just conf town he's on the verge of it tho, but he refuses to post content for true no effort

This does not make my read any different, what makes me so scummy for defending them. If I personally see them as very confident Town.

Mel

I've been thinking you were scum since that gambit, only dropping that since I thought we completely lose if we do not form a town-group yet that's thrown out today because of how likely to be scum you are.

keeping me in mind for a push

fair fair you never dropped it lol

Mel

Why would scum even block you as a Citizen claim. They wouldn't, they would block elsewhere

why assume immediately that i was rbed, even though I could be lying as scum

Mel

This does not make my read any different, what makes me so scummy for defending them. If I personally see them as very confident Town.

list of reasons, message links

03:34

go

03:34

:o

03:34

wait this is going to deadlock into both of us just screaming about how stupid reads are

03:34

we need an audience to persuade for a true setting

03:34

.-.

Regarding your three points. 1) Why would Town ever lie about their role when red-checked, this is stupid. 2) The soft could mean many different roles, Town would rather keep that hidden for WIFOM reasons where you just forced it in the open benefitting scum and only scum. 3) There was that chance scum didn't notice, yet you would rather yeet it into the open. Again benefitting only scum.

me

why assume immediately that i was rbed, even though I could be lying as scum

I'm not assuming, I am calling bullshit on your roleblock claim.

oh wait

Scum wouldn't block you, thus you were not. Unless it was Escort

lul mb

03:35

misinterpreted

03:35

ok where else would scum block?

Literally anywhere but a citizen claim

1) if you're town, why "give exact role" to mafia 2) how does exact role help mafia when they can just dedicate one of their 3 roleblocks onto whoever claims anything with a hint of usefulness at night 3) underestimating the enemy - death

Mel

Literally anywhere but a citizen claim

oh? they've got 3 rbs at their disposal

03:37

btw i stg nashed if ur town ima be mad

03:37

ok

03:38

also yea what does OMGUS stand for

1) Because if you're red-checked, you need to solve that situation instead of making it worse by fake-claiming. 2) Because scum has no idea what their role is, are you insane? Sure they can block them, but scum knowing their exact role is much safer. Thus you doing that is scummy. 3) Not in this situation. Quack would be blocked if they're outted or if their soft was caught. There was no risk in hiding that claim.

2) scum wants to know their exact role because they want their exact role, circular reasoning go brr?

me

also yea what does OMGUS stand for

OMGUS means Oh my god u suck. It's a dumb word for saying "you voted me so I must vote you"

1) how does fake claiming make it worse if it's for the greater good of the town

03:39

oh lmao

me

2) scum wants to know their exact role because they want their exact role, circular reasoning go brr?

Stop fuckin' misrepresenting me

nice nice

Scum want to know exact roles so they can plan their actions in accordance

03:40

The way scum play against a Doctor and a Marshal for example are different

"scum has no idea what their role is" ok sure, "sure they can block them" yes ofc block the top claim, "knowing their exact role is much safer" IN WHAT WAY

03:40

ohhhhh

03:40

ok so

03:40

rb?

03:41

how does that change based on rb

If they're called out for it, they risk doing more damage to the TOwn than not. And sometimes Town just don't like fake-claiming.

swapping claims within a locked uncced slot sounds completely fine

me

how does that change based on rb

Framer+Killer + Two roleblocks on other places. Adding scum utility etc

me

swapping claims within a locked uncced slot sounds completely fine

And sometimes Town just don't like fake-claiming

fair

I said that twice now

03:44

Do you see my logic now or no

Mel

Framer+Killer + Two roleblocks on other places. Adding scum utility etc

is a tp claim not the safest rb claim that mafia would have tho, especially in this setup? lots of rbs to throw around, disabled tp who's not the towniest of claims sounds great to keep in hand

03:47

also sorry got bluescreenofdeathed .-.

03:47

idk what driver irql is less than or equal is but ima look into it later cuz it's been happening a lot recently

That's why you don't call out softs

03:47

to begin with

tp soft

03:47

slot soft

03:47

sounds int

int?

uhm

03:48

throwing

03:48

uh

03:48

yea

03:48

i think that's what it's closest to

You still don't call out softs as Town

03:48

For this exact reason

will keep that in mind now, ty vv much, now as ive said before i didn't follow that policy

03:48

maybe i will next time

03:48

but

03:48

me calling out softs didn't change sht if you're mafia

03:48

cuz you saw them all anyway

03:48

so

I didn't see Quack's soft

03:48

I saw Beans

and vice versa if i was maf, and i saw softs, pointing them out to the rest of the town sounds like im being very generous

03:49

you whatnow

I actually didn't see Beans but someone also called it out

03:49

Wait

wha

03:49

that was eqsy

Who called it out

eqsy the conftown

03:49

Yeah alright

i didn't initially see it either

03:49

but ANYWAY

03:49

if eqsy can do it so can i :hmph:

03:49

now movin on

03:49

why else am i scum

03:49

other than "stop pointing out softs ya stupid fuq"

03:50

which i should rl ystop doing

03:50

it's a bad habit

I've already explained why you're scum. Both from the softs and from today

pushing you and zach because a) i voteed you after you voted me (lol i did that as a clear declaration of confrontation, not "omgus" as you said) b) zach is so obviously town yet i kept pushing them (i still dont have a list of why he's town and message links btw)

03:51

anything else?

03:51

mighta missed smth idk

Please re-word that I did not understand at al

so you think im mafia because

03:52

a) i omgus voted you

03:52

which i didn't, i voted you as a "ok nashed let's do this", not a "AAAAAA HE VOTED ME HE INSTA SUS"

03:52

obviously im exaggerating

03:52

but

03:52

you get my point

03:53

you also think im scum because i pushed zach

03:53

please provide a list of reasons and message links that shows that zach is townie

I think you're Mafia because you're constantly misrepresenting me and my logic, then you decide to omgus vote me instead of Zach just because I voted you.

as so far i don't remember seeing any townie messages from him out of pass throughs of conversations

I think they're Townie due to context instead of content.

Mel

I think you're Mafia because you're constantly misrepresenting me and my logic, then you decide to omgus vote me instead of Zach just because I voted you.

you're misrepresenting mine as well that thread isn't even followable because we think so differently that we're going to misrepresent regardless of town or mafia omgus vote: didn't i just explain that

It's still counted as omgus

Mel

I think they're Townie due to context instead of content.

list of messages that are part of context, write out why that context is townie, message links

03:54

still works

At it's core its "I vote you because you voted me"

Mel

It's still counted as omgus

didn't i say that i didn't trust you and that i thought you as scum before that

03:55

also

03:55

just because i voted second doesn't make me instantly less credible

03:55

that's absurd

Except it doesn't work because it's context. 1) Eqsy confronts Zach, conf-scumming them 2) Zach responds in a way that Eqsy conf-towns. 3) Zach disappears again 4) Eqsy is killed at night instead of Quack. 5) Zach is still AFK as always That's the context which completely clears them, if you cannot follow that chalk it up to my experience with day-play on MS. The reason I think Zach is Town from that is because they're new and that Quack is a protective claim that did not die that night. An uncc'ed protective claim vs a confirmed Town, Mafia would almost definitely focus on the protective since it's the largest threat to them. At that point iirc Quack was being regarded as town anyway at that point. The only viable reason I expect Eqsy dies over Quack is purely threat level. If Eqsy died after conf-towning somebody, that would force that person to be Town or the whole context makes zero sense for the scum to do. If Zach was scum, Eqsy would be a far lesser threat overall than Quack would for example and thus Quack should have been the one to die first, yet they didn't.

03:59

I've gotta go get some milk from the store so I'll be back

aha

03:59

"2) Zach responds in a way that eqsy conf-towns" ok send messages of why he's conf town

04:01

The reason I think Zach is Town from that is because they're new and that Quack is a protective claim that did not die that night. An uncc'ed protective claim vs a confirmed Town, Mafia would almost definitely focus on the protective since it's the largest threat to them. At that point iirc Quack was being regarded as town anyway at that point. stereotypicalizing mafia doesn't work as logic (imo), just saying that they would most definitely do this action doesn't work

If I do consider that, they're still not an option for a lynch today and thus I will push against it.

" If Eqsy died after conf-towning somebody, that would force that person to be Town or the whole context makes zero sense for the scum to do." zero sense for scum to kill them? i think forcing them to be town is a pretty good reason

Gotta go for real this time now talk in about 20 mins

oh

04:02

okiii

04:02

cyaaa

Geeez i should nor do this when i am just awake

me

" If Eqsy died after conf-towning somebody, that would force that person to be Town or the whole context makes zero sense for the scum to do." zero sense for scum to kill them? i think forcing them to be town is a pretty good reason

I'm gonna go play some Fortnite now

04:13

No idea why I quoted that

okiii

04:13

oh-

04:13

lol

04:13

have funn

04:13

we can fight again when we have a nice audience to convince

04:13

:)

I don't think majority of the players here would play mindgames like that

04:13

Aha sure thing bud

Mostly you, eqsy and lune do that

Exactly, and since I am not scum. There's nobody that would really do that

Thats not proven yet

I know, but from my own perspective

:thonk:

04:15

unless you rly are scum

Nobody would do that likely, and thus Zach is Town. pedit: You won't know until you flip me

04:15

And by that time you'd already lose aha

or we'd keep the game goin

Its also possible both of you are maf

that

04:17

would be beautiful

Which would also be a smart tactic

04:17

Get 1 lynched

04:18

The other is cleared

:thonk:

04:18

see

Like nashed said

id love to do that when im mafia some time

He does mindgames

04:18

So its possible nashed set thid up

very true

04:19

If thats true

kek it's lylo

You both could be maf

if that's true town is dead af

Rude I’m not afk

hi meowy

04:22

are you mafia

I made content

04:22

No I’m not

is nashed mafia?

And as I said earlier

04:23

This mafia is good, in my mind I was thinking the best three players are lunes eqsy and nashed

04:23

After the first two died

04:24

But I was too scared to lynch on my own because you guys might turn on me

o.o

So now can I say nashed is scummy?

so

04:24

why so?

He is the best player

04:25

Maf lost nobody

just being good doesn't mean that they're maf

We lynched a bunch of PRs

ohh

04:25

Well I don’t think the quiet afk players got it in them

ngl i think that was my fault but eh

just jackson cuz he's good sounds kind of weak reasoning

Who else fits that role

04:27

You claimed cit like day 2 and I believe you

Believe cant be trusted

None of the other players seem to be mastermindy enough

You need to know

04:27

Cit is ez to fake

04:28

that's true

Well yea, maf could also be 4 really quiet players

hm

But I think someone vocal enough to sway opinions is one of them

as you said before tho, id agree that jackson is likely to be maf

04:30

but i do think it wasn't all his influence that those lynches happened

04:30

tho he definitely had a part

If maf is lynched then it’s 5v3 plus there is still a RT, hopefully they can offer some direction without claiming

Wow

04:46

Alright

04:46

I am at E-1

04:46

E-2

04:46

I mean

Meowy is also scum.

omgus

05:04

ok he didn't vote you so

05:05

nvm ig

@me mafia wins

05:25

@The Game (Dan)

05:25

hammer happened I believe

05:28

Call that gamethrowing if you want

How does it feel to win? @me

i

05:59

sincerely hope

05:59

that you're trolling

05:59

are you actually fuqing town

I'm not, mafia won

what the fuc

05:59

.

05:59

this is borderline gt .-.

Nah

self hammer unless ur jester

06:00

is

06:00

pretty much gt

Nah

06:02

I never gamethrow

06:02

Even if the odds are stacked against me

06:02

I play to win

06:02

Just waiting on @The Game (Dan) to do the flip

06:03

@me do you know what the drug dealers final drug is?

06:05

Do you also know when that drug can be used?

06:07

@me are you scum

06:08

@me @me @me @me @me @me @me @me @me @me @me @me @me @me @me @me

06:14

Gg

06:14

What was the other PR?

Beab

06:14

Bean

06:14

Tracker

Another tracker

06:14

What was their results?

06:15

They saw u block quack n1

06:15

That it

Why did they not call that out

Dunno

I was planning on claiming Escort if I was called out regardless but still

I mean they were about to track eqsy night 2 for some reason

Lol

I had to question their decision about 6 times

06:15

Before they realised

Mario didn't even track Ironfire

06:15

What

06:16

@me

06:16

I outplayed y'all

This game gave me depression

Why? :c

Idk it just felt like a horrible game from host's perspective

:c sorry

06:17

Release maf chat?

https://discord.gg/3VGjskZDy2

My play was to get either ironfire or myself lynched so that drug dealer is left alive to double-kill and win.

Idk how to do archive thing so @EqsyLootz do your job

Leave it for a little bit for post-game chat

06:20

@EqsyLootz I completely disagree with how toxic you were in this game..

06:21

No matter how the game is going you should never make someone feel attacked like you did.

Game’s over?

Ye

AAA

06:33

Got lynched while sleeping

06:33

Anyway just gonna answer some stuff koikichi said while I was asleep

06:34

Ok so firstly mafia can easily just afk the entire game and not get lynched, I’m pretty sure that’s an actual strat, so lynching afk isn’t always bad

06:36

And for this I just said that due to my overmemeing in the early game a townie would probably want to vote me. Also a did the scumreading because I was asked to, not because they are sussing me

super-

06:54

whas-

06:54

wait it was nashed zach super meowy

06:54

thonc

06:55

welp gotta love that maf kpn

me

super zach nashed meowy?

You called it 100%

wayyyyyyyyyy too late

07:26

but like

07:26

sads

07:32

also lol bean wyd

07:32

:/

me

wait it was nashed zach super meowy

It was super obvious that it was super/meowyu

oh game's over

08:02

but god I was right about Zach/Nashed W/W smh

08:02

I really need to not back down from my reads

08:02

ever

me

super zach nashed meowy?

you are absolutely god tier btw. I never knew you were so good as town lol

08:03

honest topic Ironfire was one of the MVPS for this game lol

The Game (Dan)

Idk it just felt like a horrible game from host's perspective

BEAN TRACKED NASHED N1. SAW NASHED VISIT QUACK! AND TRIED TO TRACK ME N2 LOL

08:04

@Bean Why

The Game (Dan)

I mean they were about to track eqsy night 2 for some reason

oh you already commented on this

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Yeah I figured that would be why you retracted

Ugh I was hoping zach would do a towntell

08:05

but he didn't

08:05

so I had to just call him town to defuse the situation

EqsyLootz

you are absolutely god tier btw. I never knew you were so good as town lol

Not really, it was obvious I was sticking hard to not lynching 3 people.

I should've just done a legacy read on Nashed/Zach W/W

Mel

Not really, it was obvious I was sticking hard to not lynching 3 people.

that too

08:06

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/841609116732096533/853665045502492703

08:06

rippp

I already had a plan set out for every possibility

08:06

Not even shitting you

08:07

If you check mafia chat, I have a link there

08:07

Game was busted with three scum roleblockers

08:07

Underboss should have never been a flippable role. Drug dealer was OP as hell, though the Weed was useless.

Town had a chance based on your interactions alone

08:08

Mario was a bad lynch tbh

It was

@Reb Sorry bout how toxic I was I was seriously hoping you would obv town but you never did so I tried my best to defuse the situation lol

08:09

Welp

08:09

Least you won

I willingly sacrficied myself today, planned it as well .

08:09

All I needed today is to elim town or not super

08:09

I am good at sliding out of trouble when I'm in it

well anyways well playeed scum

Lune went "you're acting like Pyro's game" I slid out You went "Zach/Nash W/W" I slid out Then iron's correct SR cost Town the game

08:11

I was actually scared shitless of the SK

well

Until Eqsy clutched that one for the mofai

you're welcome

08:11

lol

Lmfaoo

Anytime

Don't straight up elim me early now just out of policy plz

08:11

I can carry Town too :c

nah I don't do that dwdw

08:12

I've actually gotten pretty decent my past few games compared to 6 months ago tbhhh

Iron did do well @me conglaturations

My scumreads have been much more accurate and i've done better as scum

08:12

so that's nice lol

08:12

Yes Iron did really well

Yeah that's why I keep telling people to have confidence

08:12

in their reads

08:13

But not old!nashed levels of confidence where I death-tunnel

I did get cold feet on Zach

08:13

I was so scared of the outcome of what owuld happen if Zach was town

08:13

lol

I killed you precisely because I thought you'd retract your Zach clear and killing you can force my hand into TRing Zach

08:14

Either way ironfires pushes today would have both led to the same outcome

08:15

N2: Eqsy Dies 4v7 D3: meowy lynched 3v7 If Underboss dies tomorrow. N3: Block both PRs, kill Quack. 3v6 D4: Lynch Town (crucial) 3v5 N4: Block last PR, kill PR, Kill someone that isn't Mike (they have defense). 3v3 WIN If Super dies tomorrow. N3: Jail and kill Quack. Block other PR. 3v6 D4: Lynch Town 3v5 N4: Block and kill Mike. Jail other PR. 3v4 D5: Lynch Town. 3v3 WIN If Super dies tomorrow. Underboss dies D4. N3: Jail and kill Quack. Block other PR. 3v6 D4: Lynch Underboss 2v6 N4: Block and kill other PR. 2v5 D5: Lynch Town. 2v4 N5: Block and kill Mike. 2v3. D6: Lynch Town. 2v2 WIN If Super dies tomorrow. Underboss dies D4. Nashed dies D5. N3: Jail and kill Quack. Block other PR. 3v6 D4: Lynch Underboss 2v6 N4: Block and kill other PR. 2v5 D5: Lynch Nashed. 1v4 N5: Attack Mike (wont die). 1v4. D6: Lynch Town. 1v3 N7: Kill Mike 1v2 N8: Lynch Town 1v1 WIN If Super dies tomorrow. Underboss D4. Zach D5 N3: Jail and kill Quack. Block other PR. 3v6 D4: Lynch Underboss 2v6 N4: Block and kill other PR. 2v5 D5: Lynch Zach. 2v4 N5: Kill and block Mike. 2v3. D6: Lynch Town. 2v2 WIN If Underboss dies tomorrow and Super dies D4. N3: Block both PRs, kill Quack. 3v6 D4: Lynch Scum (super) 2v6 N4: Block + Kill PR 2v5 D4: Lynch Town 2v4 N5: Block + Kill Mike 2v4 D5: Lynch Town 2v3 WIN

08:15

If Underboss dies tomorrow. Super dies D4 and Nashed dies D5 N3: Block both PRs, kill Quack. 3v6 D4: Lynch Scum (super) 2v6 N4: Block + Kill PR 2v5 D5: Lynch Nashed 1v5 N5: Attack Mike (will not die) 1v5 D6: Lynch Town 1v4 N6: Kill Mike or PR 1v3 D7: Lynch Town 1v2 WIN OR N3: Block both PRs, kill Quack. 3v6 D4: Lynch Scum (super) 2v6 N4: Block + Kill PR 2v5 D5: Lynch Nashed 1v5 N5: Kill other PR 1v4 D6: Lynch Town 1v3 N6: Kill not-Mike Town to 1v2 D7: Lynch not-mike town 1v1 WIN If Underboss dies tomorrow. SUper dies D4, Zach dies D5 N3: Block both PRs, kill Quack. 3v6 D4: Lynch Scum (super) 2v6 N4: Block + Kill PR 2v5 D5: Lynch Zach 1v5 N5: Kill PR 1v4 D6: Lynch Town 1v3 N6: Kill and Block Mike 1v2 D7: Lynch Town 1v1 WIN

08:15

My plans

08:15

If scum does not die tomorrow. N2: Eqsy Dies 4v7 D3: Town lynched 4v6 N3: Jail Quack. Block Mike and other PR. Kill Mike. 4v5 D4: Lynch Town 4v4 WIN If scum does not die tomorrow but Underboss dies the following day. N2: Eqsy Dies 4v7 D3: Town lynched 4v6 N3: Jail Quack. Block Mike and other PR. Kill Mike. 4v5 D4: Lynch Meowy 3v5 WIN N4: Block last PR, kill PR, Kill someone that isn't Mike (they have defense). 3v3 WIN

08:15

Those were my plans

Mel

I killed you precisely because I thought you'd retract your Zach clear and killing you can force my hand into TRing Zach

Oh my lord

08:17

So much

08:18

Wow you did well

08:18

Only issue is you made it so obvious who your teammates were

08:18

if you distanced yourself more

08:18

you would've been flawless

EqsyLootz

Only issue is you made it so obvious who your teammates were

I did that because I was hard-pushing one agenda

08:18

The one which happened, but I agree I should have distanced more

yep

08:19

yall had double kill

08:19

but if you didnt

08:19

could easily be a chain lynch

Yeah, but we did and I wanted to clutch with it

08:19

I would definitely not have done what I did if we didn't have that

yeahh

EqsyLootz

@Reb Sorry bout how toxic I was I was seriously hoping you would obv town but you never did so I tried my best to defuse the situation lol

You kinda forget I suck at mafia but lmao

lol

08:23

practice makes perfect

08:23

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

08:23

Honestly Zach I wasn't 100% sure you were mafia until Nashed defended you for seemingly no reason

08:23

Ugh

08:23

Oh well

08:23

It was a fun game all in all

08:24

I could've played so much better.

08:24

but welp

Trust me when I say that is coincidental, I do the same this as Town

08:24

Defend someone randomly

doubts

We shall see

If you do that I'm going to Policy lynch you.

08:24

:)

:C

Its fine, i have a shitty temper

08:25

Oh shit lag

08:26

Anyways yea

EqsyLootz

practice makes perfect

I dont know how to act town even as town so lmao

Thank you, thank you

I scumread 3/4 mafia d1

10:41

Sadge

Reb

I dont know how to act town even as town so lmao

Be helpful, or at least try to be helpful. Being helpful being - Share your opinions on what people discuss. - Try to make connections between what people say, how they act and what mechanical (role and voting/lynching) information is available. - Be active For both 1 and 2, always try to provide as many arguments for your opinion and reasoning as possible. It makes you more credible, more convincing and it also helps to understand your train of thought better. That's like the baseline (edited)

10:43

I guess

Lunexia on Osu!

Be helpful, or at least try to be helpful. Being helpful being - Share your opinions on what people discuss. - Try to make connections between what people say, how they act and what mechanical (role and voting/lynching) information is available. - Be active For both 1 and 2, always try to provide as many arguments for your opinion and reasoning as possible. It makes you more credible, more convincing and it also helps to understand your train of thought better. That's like the baseline (edited)

Cant make reads for shit tho so

It doesn't matter if they are good, correct or accurate

10:45

It only matters that they are there

10:45

Since, if you are town, there is always a chance you are scum reading a mafia

10:45

If you are mafia you would seldom scumread a mafia

10:46

So if you end up dying, your opinions from past days live on

Lunexia on Osu!

Since, if you are town, there is always a chance you are scum reading a mafia

And like 5 more you are misreading a town

Yes

10:46

That's fine

10:46

Other people will add their opinions to those 5 and probably rule out 4 of them

10:46

The fifth might even be pushed by the mafia

10:46

And it ends up revealing them on the long run

10:47

Sometimes you could even throw in false scum reads and see who jumps onto it

10:47

Stuff you totally believe to be innocent

10:47

But you say they are scummy and see how people react

Reb

Cant make reads for shit tho so

Even if your reads are bad still give them

People who say, "no they look innocent" might be fellow townies

Zen

10:47

Zen

10:47

Zen

10:47

Rip you

EqsyLootz

Even if your reads are bad still give them

Always give your reads

10:47

Doesnt matter how good they are

10:47

it legit doesnt matter

EqsyLootz

Rip you

Yes I died

If you think youre bad, let the good players do the big thinking, just provide enough info that they can get to work :)

but don't get sheeped

Zen you've died for the greater cause

by mafia

10:48

Sometimes @Reb Even if you're not confident in your reads

10:48

we can townread or scumread you

Yes as i said, you'll also have to see who follows your reads and for what reason

based on how your reads are

10:48

uk

EqsyLootz

based on how your reads are

exactly

Lunexia on Osu!

Zen you've died for the greater cause

For the greater good of mafia

10:48

Xd

xD

10:49

I grab food

10:49

O /

EqsyLootz

based on how your reads are

So i can be scumread for fucking up 90% of my reads, noted

Nah

Wouldnt giving absolutely useless reads be counterintuitive

a

11:02

hey

11:02

sorry i was so inac lmfao

11:02

but i got mafia again

EqsyLootz

so I had to just call him town to defuse the situation

bruh

Mel

Not really, it was obvious I was sticking hard to not lynching 3 people.

yea :( that was throwing me off since the beginning but i was way too int to notice earlier